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Old 05-06-2016, 12:29 PM   #141
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Kids today don't even have to buy insurance until they are freaking 25 while still living in their parents basement after receiving their Woman's Studies Bachelors of Arts--the law used to only cover kids under parent's insurance until 18. So it used to be the norm for kids, who don't need insurance, to go without it for the longest time. Now kids today, who paid too much for a shitty education, and live at home with no job, are FORCED until threat of jail to buy the insurance they don't need in order to pay for the others who use it with money they don't have. Plus insurance is more expensive than ever, and eventually all employers are going to stop offering it as an incentive for employment which will make it even more expensive to purchase and since it will be state run, even less useful.

These kids all voted for this too, and will blame the rich, corporations, and republicans when it was the liberals/progressives that they voted for that enslaved them into servitude under the guise of "free" stuff.
Today's "youth" are not deemed to have an adult level of maturity until 26, but have the right to vote at 18.
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Kids today don't even have to buy insurance until they are freaking 25 while still living in their parents basement after receiving their Woman's Studies Bachelors of Arts--the law used to only cover kids under parent's insurance until 18. So it used to be the norm for kids, who don't need insurance, to go without it for the longest time. Now kids today, who paid too much for a shitty education, and live at home with no job, are FORCED until threat of jail to buy the insurance they don't need in order to pay for the others who use it with money they don't have. Plus insurance is more expensive than ever, and eventually all employers are going to stop offering it as an incentive for employment which will make it even more expensive to purchase and since it will be state run, even less useful.

These kids all voted for this too, and will blame the rich, corporations, and republicans when it was the liberals/progressives that they voted for that enslaved them into servitude under the guise of "free" stuff.
Under 26. I disagree with you.

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It's not that I don't agree; many kids today just have no ******* ability to persevere. Ask them to do something that's not on a computer and is difficult and watch them shrivel.

But a lot of this inter-generational complaining comes from boomers. Who are the spoiled little rich brats of the greatest generation. They got raised in Levittowns in a world of continuous economic growth where if you put your 40 in each week and played ******* golf with the boss once in awhile you got regular raises and probably a promotion and in the end you got a pension, SS, and have some fun money so you could move to Florida, bitch about people who have lived there longer than you, drive a ****** beige Camry, and talk about hemorrhoids. A huge portion of these people have seldom worked more than 50 hours a week, have not done manual labor of any real sort in over 30 years, and have not had to fix their own homes or cars since their second kid. These are the people who talked **** about every traditional institution on the map in the 60s, protested wars and big brother, then brought us more wars than ever before and bitch about kids not respecting them and all their hard work.

I have been employed since 16 with a total of 18 months of between jobs, during which I lived on savings. I know many people like this. But I did not walk 87 miles to school wearing a button up shirt and tie so I suck I guess.

'Kids' now are paying easily 4 times what I did to go to school back around Y2K. And often doing it with minimal help from parents IME. I got 500 bucks a month - I was basically rich compared to most of my friends. I had to sell books door to door to get through without what I considered too much debt. And I had it sooo much better than they do now.

Boomers for the most part have 401Ks, IRAs, SS, savings, houses, etc. Many have ******* pensions.

My generation can't even comprehend pensions outside Gov. work. Many of us work our asses off (as I have for the past 6 years) with no 401K, let alone a match from the employer. You do your IRA and if you don't you are fucked. SS is not going to save you even if Bernie get elected and frankly many kids DO get that.

Boomers often had health care coverage from their employer that was either free or close to it, and it basically, you know....worked. Not so much now. And god help you if you have a kid. So with massive price increases in health care cost and the criminalization of not buying a shitty product from a corrupt organization, I'm not super quick to bitch about staying on parent's care until 26.

Forget millennials, **** boomers. Millennials have their issues as does everyone, but at least the world they bitch and moan about is not one of their own creation.
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Pfft. we have it better than any other humans to have ever existed.
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So - I was telling my wife my theory that the best ethnic restaurants are hidden in the sleaziest strip malls, when she says to me, "I wish you wouldn't use the word 'ethnic'. It makes me uncomfortable." (Yes, she attended a liberal arts university, but she got a degree in bio-chem, not whale gender studies.)

Now this surprised me because I've never thought about "ethnic" being an offensive term. I generally don't go out of my way to offend people, and if there's a word that's pretty universally considered offensive, and it has some non-offensive alternatives, I use those. "Oriental" is a good example of this - "Asian" works just as well and doesn't rustle any jimmies. On the other hand, I refuse to participate in the pearl-clutching done by those who keep wanting to limit what is acceptable speech. A quick google search reveals that there are (of course) a substantial number of people who are trying to eradicate "ethnic" as an acceptable term, apparently because it implies that Euro-white is normal, and "ethnic" is the foreign other. It seems to be just a rogues gallery of the usual kooks, however.

It seems to me that "ethnic" is a just a derivation of "ethnicity", so if I'm talking about ethnic restaurants, I'm just referring to cuisines from ethnicities other than my own. This seems acceptable and inoffensive to me. If I was Nigerian, American food would be ethnic food.

Anybody else heard that "ethnic" is offensive now? And what the hell am I supposed to say instead? "Foreign restaurants" just sounds weird to me.
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People are morons, **** them.

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Not sure where the best place to post this, but here it is.

Synopsis of article from a Left-leaning think tank:
To have a 98% success rate of escaping poverty in the USA, there are 3 steps to accomplish:
1) Graduate from high school
2) Get a full time job
3) Do not marry or have children until you attain the age of 21 years

The article can be found here: Three Simple Rules Poor Teens Should Follow to Join the Middle Class | Brookings Institution
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Say "Ethnic", and when she says she's offended, ask her what "ethnic" means to her. Then tell her what "ethnic" means to merriam-webster. Finally, let her know that by being offended to the word "ethnic", she is taking the "dignity" away from "ethnic" people. Tell her she is of North American ethnicity, and ask her if that is offensive.

Lastly, people like her are slowly eliminating the English language. It will never stop. Once they eliminate one offensive adjective, they will move on to the next most offensive adjective until there are no adjectives left. It's all because they somehow feel "guilty". Tell her to lose the guilt - she is not guilty - there are no reparations that she has to pay for the relative offenses committed against a group of people by her great grandfather's generation.
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Say "Ethnic", and when she says she's offended, ask her what "ethnic" means to her. Then tell her what "ethnic" means to merriam-webster. Finally, let her know that by being offended to the word "ethnic", she is taking the "dignity" away from "ethnic" people. Tell her she is of North American ethnicity, and ask her if that is offensive. Lastly, people like her are slowly eliminating the English language. It will never stop. Once they eliminate one offensive adjective, they will move on to the next most offensive adjective until there are no adjectives left. It's all because they somehow feel "guilty". Tell her to lose the guilt - she is not guilty - there are no reparations that she has to pay for the relative offenses committed against a group of people by her great grandfather's generation.
Well, she's Norwegian, so her ancestors were busy raping their way down the coast of England. Maybe she can pay reparations to the English.
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Not sure where the best place to post this, but here it is.

Synopsis of article from a Left-leaning think tank:
To have a 98% success rate of escaping poverty in the USA, there are 3 steps to accomplish:
1) Graduate from high school
2) Get a full time job
3) Do not marry or have children until you attain the age of 21 years

The article can be found here: Three Simple Rules Poor Teens Should Follow to Join the Middle Class | Brookings Institution
It's a good start. I would also throw in there "4) after high school, leave your friends and family to get a full time job in another city (where you don't know anyone) more than 150 miles away from where you went to high school." I think poverty is just as much "you" as it is "the people around you".

Unfortunately, "poverty" is also a relative term, if the permanent purchasing power of everyone were to double overnight, then the definitions of "poverty", both social and technical, would be adjusted upward so that it would still encompass a large enough percentage of the population to be dubbed a "problem that we must eradicate".

I suspect that the purchasing power of today's impoverished far exceeds the purchasing power of the upper middle class 100 years ago, yet the relative "impoverishedness" of that individual has somehow increased.

100 Years ago, they complained that they couldn't afford bread, milk, or a simple roof. Today, we give them the bread, milk, and a roof with walls, heat, electricity, phone, etc., and instead, they complain that they can't afford the gold iPhone AND the deductible for their free health insurance.
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Lastly, people like her are slowly eliminating the English language. It will never stop. Once they eliminate one offensive adjective, they will move on to the next most offensive adjective until there are no adjectives left. It's all because they somehow feel "guilty". Tell her to lose the guilt - she is not guilty - there are no reparations that she has to pay for the relative offenses committed against a group of people by her great grandfather's generation.
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It's a good start. I would also throw in there "4) after high school, leave your friends and family to get a full time job in another city (where you don't know anyone) more than 150 miles away from where you went to high school." I think poverty is just as much "you" as it is "the people around you".

Unfortunately, "poverty" is also a relative term, if the permanent purchasing power of everyone were to double overnight, then the definitions of "poverty", both social and technical, would be adjusted upward so that it would still encompass a large enough percentage of the population to be dubbed a "problem that we must eradicate".

I suspect that the purchasing power of today's impoverished far exceeds the purchasing power of the upper middle class 100 years ago, yet the relative "impoverishedness" of that individual has somehow increased.

100 Years ago, they complained that they couldn't afford bread, milk, or a simple roof. Today, we give them the bread, milk, and a roof with walls, heat, electricity, phone, etc., and instead, they complain that they can't afford the gold iPhone AND the deductible for their free health insurance.
A ******* 1 post.

No doubt, we have it so good, I can go down to the wrecker and buy a shitbox car for a few hours pay which is safer, more reliable, has more features and ungodly faster than anything my parents could afford at the peak of their career, and in my world its a 200 dollar shitbox about to be scrapped.

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Adam's rant is relevant to this topic:

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Not sure where the best place to post this, but here it is.

Synopsis of article from a Left-leaning think tank:
To have a 98% success rate of escaping poverty in the USA, there are 3 steps to accomplish:
1) Graduate from high school
2) Get a full time job
3) Do not marry or have children until you attain the age of 21 years

The article can be found here: Three Simple Rules Poor Teens Should Follow to Join the Middle Class | Brookings Institution
All 3 of these things are free of charge in this country. Just requires a little self control.
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Interesting article.

Two quotes from it stand out in particular, inasmuch as that they seem to exemplify a fundamental, underlying flaw in the thought process.


In one of the campaign posters, a baby with tears rolling down his face says: “I’m twice as likely not to graduate high school because you had me as a teen.” Another shows a girl saying to her mom: “Chances are he won’t stay with you. What happens to me?” Planned Parenthood criticized the ads, displayed in the subway and bus shelters, for ignoring racial and economic factors that contribute to teen pregnancy.

Ignoring racial and economic factors that contribute to teen pregnancy? There's only one factor which contributes to teen pregnancy, and that's sex. Now, I have no illusions about teenagers not having sex, but condoms are handed out for free at pretty much every health clinic in North America, they fit penises of all races, and their existence is not a well-guarded secret.



Other critics say the ads stigmatize teen parents and their children.

Well, duh. Isn't that the whole point? You make teenagers not want to get knocked up by stigmatizing knocked-up teenagers. How can that be hard to understand?

What concerns me is the tacit assumption that the value of not hurting some knocked-up teenager's feelings exceeds that of preventing more teens from getting knocked up. That's a frightening and dangerous philosophy.



Actually, as a professional drunk, I'm offended by ads which stigmatize DUI. Who can I complain to about that?
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I also find it interesting that PP objected to an add that advocated not having babies. Isn't not having babies what PP is all about?
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