Gun Rights: Should you be allowed to own an RPG?
08-08-2012, 05:44 PM
#102
Tour de Franzia
iTrader: (6)
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Republic of Dallas
Posts: 29,085
Total Cats: 375
There is no moral superiority in cowering to lawless agressors. Most of us value our safety and personal property more than the lives of criminals who destroy both.
If faced with a mugger with a vial of poison, I am definitely going that route!
Reply
0
0
08-08-2012, 05:56 PM
#104
It doesn't cause crime, however, it does provide an incentive.
I suppose it would be a fair argument to say:
poor family structure/values>leads to>poor education>leads to>poorer job opportunities>leads to>poverty>leads to>incentive to commit crimes>leads to>risk of violent confrontations>leads to>higher risk of gun violence
I think it's also fair to just label that cycle as 'poverty' as in: a lack total lack of resources both social, educationally, and financially.
Poverty is not a guarantee of violence as low income Chinese/Indian families prove to be highly educated and relatively law abiding <generalization>
-Zach
I suppose it would be a fair argument to say:
poor family structure/values>leads to>poor education>leads to>poorer job opportunities>leads to>poverty>leads to>incentive to commit crimes>leads to>risk of violent confrontations>leads to>higher risk of gun violence
I think it's also fair to just label that cycle as 'poverty' as in: a lack total lack of resources both social, educationally, and financially.
Poverty is not a guarantee of violence as low income Chinese/Indian families prove to be highly educated and relatively law abiding <generalization>
-Zach
Reply
0
0
08-08-2012, 07:05 PM
#107
Elite Member
iTrader: (11)
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Overland Park, Kansas
Posts: 5,360
Total Cats: 43
Look at how laws have changed our right to own firearms over the last 100 years alone! NFA1934 is a PERFECT example, an even more atrocious example is the "Firearm Owners Protection Act" of 1986.
Here, Scott left out some relevant data from England:
England banned Handguns completely in 1997. Look at the homicide rate alone.
Bullshit, man.
5 AR-15 Rifles: $4000.00
5 10 round Magazines: $100.00
4 .223 Blanks: $3.16
1 .223 55gr FMJ: $0.39
1 Blindfold: $2.00?
That's cheaper than 3 meals a say with room & board, education and entertainment facilities for 25+ years?
Oh, on topic, Bet your effing *** I need an RPG:
Here, Scott left out some relevant data from England:
England banned Handguns completely in 1997. Look at the homicide rate alone.
The death penalty is pretty well known to either not act as a deterrent, or being completely unclear (See Death penalty deter killings? Study says evidence unclear - Los Angeles Times as a reference) as to whether it has any effect at all. The crime statistics however argue clearly against it - and isn't that what one would care about when trying to argue deterrence?
Secondly, please remember that the death penalty is more expensive even than life in prison.
Secondly, please remember that the death penalty is more expensive even than life in prison.
Bullshit, man.
5 AR-15 Rifles: $4000.00
5 10 round Magazines: $100.00
4 .223 Blanks: $3.16
1 .223 55gr FMJ: $0.39
1 Blindfold: $2.00?
That's cheaper than 3 meals a say with room & board, education and entertainment facilities for 25+ years?
Oh, on topic, Bet your effing *** I need an RPG:
Reply
0
0
08-08-2012, 07:10 PM
#108
I'm just going to refer to a quote from the Founding Fathers here...
Originally Posted by Benjamin Franklin
that it is better one hundred guilty Persons should escape than that one innocent Person should suffer.
card. Then again, see my thoughts on gun control - gun control infringes on people's Rights for some people's beliefs, and hey, we've gone full circle!
Reply
0
0
08-09-2012, 07:22 AM
#112
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 2,799
Total Cats: 179
You might as well bend the knee and suck a dick. You're basically saying that your personal freedoms, your liberties, and your basic right to exist as a free man are less important than finding a way to accommodate the actions of the lawless. Your comment is disgusting.
In America, we don't set the bar for liberty based on the acts of a few miscreants. Wanting to have a fair fight against criminals is the mark of a moral coward... a person who doesn't want an advantage simply to satisfy his ego. You're trying to put the criminal and the free man on equal footing by telling the free man what he must and must not do because your telling of the criminal has not worked. Your line of reasoning is just plain sickening.
In America, we don't set the bar for liberty based on the acts of a few miscreants. Wanting to have a fair fight against criminals is the mark of a moral coward... a person who doesn't want an advantage simply to satisfy his ego. You're trying to put the criminal and the free man on equal footing by telling the free man what he must and must not do because your telling of the criminal has not worked. Your line of reasoning is just plain sickening.
Maybe these pictures of mine will make you feel better:
Reply
0
0
08-09-2012, 01:37 PM
#117
Moderator
iTrader: (12)
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Tampa, Florida
Posts: 20,652
Total Cats: 3,011
Some of the poorest people I know wouldn't take a penny they didn't earn, even if it was freely given to them. It is about honor, dignity, and integrity. And that comes from being taught and modeled by parents who are (A.) present, (B.) care enough to teach it daily.
Shame is seldom taught and sorely missed in our culture as well. Shame is the emotional manifestation of having a conscience.
Shame is seldom taught and sorely missed in our culture as well. Shame is the emotional manifestation of having a conscience.
Reply
0
0
08-10-2012, 10:56 PM
#120
Elite Member
iTrader: (11)
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Overland Park, Kansas
Posts: 5,360
Total Cats: 43
So, you are asking people who have been convicted by the lowest criminal court to waive all appeals, all constitutionally protected rights, and just accept their execution? Even if they may be innocent? (See: 140+ innocent people executed in Texas over the past few decades)
And that I should have an RPG.
Reply
0
0
