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Old 06-24-2014, 02:50 PM   #2341
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stop antagonizing the warrior no knock swat team, 2-year old sleeping child.
Or, don't endanger your children by letting people keep and sell illegal drugs in the same space that you store your sleeping infants. Seems like this isn't the first time that we've seen parents do this exact thing, and then whine about it when the child is injured in the inevitable subsequent raid.

If Jeffery was injured during a police raid because I permitted drugs to be kept and sold in my home which was subsequently raided by the police, I'd feel pretty damned horrible about it, but I wouldn't blame anyone but myself.
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starting to sound like blaen99, joe. typical blame the victim response.

there weren't any drugs in the house, nor were there any persons in the house that kept/sold drugs.

I thought you were a man of logic and reason, you exhibited zero in that post.
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starting to sound like blaen99, joe. typical blame the victim response.
Not at all. I'm blaming the victim's parents, for negligently placing them in harm's way, just like I'd blame a person who allowed their toddler to play with a loaded and unlocked handgun, rather than hysterically blaming the handgun industry and calling fot stronger firearms legislation.
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I'm blaming the victim's parents, for negligently placing them in harm's way
CITIZENS: If you have the misfortune of being related to someone who has engaged in illegal activity, your children are forfeit.
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The suspect the swat team was looking for didn't live in the house.

They didn't even confirm if the suspect was there, or if there were people that could be injured by a grenade when they no-knock raided a peaceful home.

a court will agree with me in a few years when the victim's family is paid millions in a settlement...
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a court will agree with me in a few years when the victim's family is paid millions in a settlement...
Sadly, I expect that you're right. The ability of the police to function is being gradually eroded every day by poorly-informed juries handing out unreasonably large punitive awards, in much the same way as doctors and the healthcare system terrified of malpractice suits, teachers and school principals unable to discipline students for fear of abuse claims, automakers who can no longer build simple, lightweight cars due to all of the BS "safety" technology which large jury awards required them to weigh down the cars with, and so on.

But, hey, at least the Phonesavanh family will be able to afford a nice vacation.

FYI, the police were looking for 30-year-old Wanis Thometheva, who lived at that address.

Hours after a confidential informant said he bought methamphetamine from Wanis Thometheva at a Habersham County home late Tuesday, officers returned to the home to arrest him.

Thometheva, 30, of Cornelia, wasn’t a stranger to them, police say. Terrell said that during a prior arrest on drug charges, investigators discovered Thometheva had weapons, including an AK-47.

“That’s the threat he uses to those who don’t do what he wants,” Terrell said.

Thometheva was not at the home at the time of the raid but was later arrested at another house on a felony drug charge of distribution of meth.
Officers had no indication that any children were inside the Lakeview Heights home when they returned around 3 a.m. Wednesday, Terrell said, and approached the same door where drugs had been purchased.
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the police don't need to toss grenades in order to function.

oh hey, we've reached the point of this thread.


the family claims the kid doesn't live there, also: swatting.


My brother has priors, should I expect my house to be raided if he ever visits?
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My brother has priors, should I expect my house to be raided if he ever visits?
If your brother sells crystal meth to an undercover narcotics officer at your home as Wanis Thometheva did, then yes, I'd advise you to expect a raid.
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Old 06-25-2014, 05:57 PM   #2349
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If your brother sells crystal meth to an undercover narcotics officer at your home as Wanis Thometheva did, then yes, I'd advise you to expect a raid.
pretty much, yes, agreed. but no flash bangs were thrown. it's all theatrics. if they wanted to actually arrest him, they'd wait for him to walk out to his car, and just grab him.

The application for search warrant for the home said the house was a drug house and guarded with heavy traffic in/out and full of weapons. An "informant" said he bought drugs there, he did so in order to get his own charges dropped against him and get his children back. Police initially claimed it was an undercover cop; they also claimed the family was aware of the kids dealings and were in on it. These informants don't even hold up in court under oath, im surprised a judge signed off on the warrant based on that "evidence".

Family members claim this is not true, that he lived somewhere else, and that his records do not indicate that a place of residence or if that house was pegged as a drug house.

Whatever the case may be, I'n sure it's not policy of the GA police to randomly throw flashbangs into rooms with 4 occupants at 3am while they are sleeping. They are grenades that can kill and cause fire as they burn at 4000°F. They are military weapons. If they wanted to arrest this dude, they stake him out, and arrest him.

Swat rushed over to the house, without any recon/investigation, and raided it. they recovered nothing.

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that in a previous plea agreement, the suspect, Wanis Tthonetheva, waived his 4th amendment right of search and seizure. Essentially that means the police could have legally searched him and his residence with or without probable cause.
It is my theory that the cops used the informant as an excuse to raid this guy's parent's house because they had nothing else to get him on (and that wasn't one of his residences they could search) and that they were ultimately looking for was a big score so they could sell the drugs on the street themselves and makes lots of money*

The war on drugs harms everyone and solves nothing.


The family does not have insurance, nor a home. I'm willing to bet the police aren't going to pay for damages, because that would cause police to be more careful and that would be a dangerous precedent. This will get settled out of court and they'll be millionaires with a damaged baby.

I wish the supreme court would invalidate no-knock raids. I've posted way too many no-knock raid death/injuries this year alone, and most of them were wrong addresses; I'm tossing this one into that category as well.

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Old 06-26-2014, 10:19 AM   #2350
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The war on drugs harms everyone and solves nothing.
That's one thing we can agree on.


But at least the police in your state aren't beheading people without trial like they are here in NYC:


Driver beheaded while trying to flee cops in Brooklyn
POSTED 9:59 PM, JUNE 25, 2014, BY ASHLEY EDWARDS, UPDATED AT 09:57PM, JUNE 25, 2014


BROOKLYN (PIX11/AP) – A 22-year-old man fleeing police in Brooklyn was beheaded when his car collided with a flatbed truck on the Brooklyn-Queens Expressway Tuesday.

Police say Leroy Samuel, of Brooklyn, was driving a 2003 Infiniti eastbound on the BQE around Wednesday noon when he attempted to exit at Atlantic Avenue and struck the flatbed truck, which was waiting at a traffic light.

Samuel sped off at about 70 to 80 miles per hour and tried to exit at Atlantic Avenue near Hicks street but the car collided with a truck.

Police say Samuel suffered severe head trauma and was pronounced dead at the scene. Police say a 22-year-old female passenger in the Infiniti complained of back and neck pain and was hospitalized in stable condition.

A witness told the Post the man’s head was “sheared off” by the truck.

“When I went to see what happened to the driver, he had no head. His head was in the back seat. It was horrible.”

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or how they handle thieves in other, uncivilized, countries:

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Sadly, I expect that you're right. The ability of the police to function is being gradually eroded every day by poorly-informed juries handing out unreasonably large punitive awards, in much the same way as doctors and the healthcare system terrified of malpractice suits, teachers and school principals unable to discipline students for fear of abuse claims, automakers who can no longer build simple, lightweight cars due to all of the BS "safety" technology which large jury awards required them to weigh down the cars with, and so on.

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Georgia Police Left Two Teenagers In A Holding Cell - Business Insider

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Two Georgia teenagers were left in a county courthouse holding cell from Friday to Monday with no food, lights, or toilet paper, Dave Huddleston WSB Atlanta reports.

"I’m embarrassed today as I can possibly be,” Douglas County Sheriff Phil Miller told reporters.

The teenage boys, ages 16 and 17, had court appearances on Friday, and were locked in the holding cell after neither of their parents showed up.
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A police officer caught on video kicking a restrained boy’s legs out from under him will not face criminal charges, prosecutors said Wednesday.

In dramatic footage that surfaced online last month, Officer Jermaine Jones of the Boynton Beach Police is seen approaching the boy, who is standing with his hands restrained, and delivering a sweeping kick that causes the boy to fall to the ground. The state attorney for Palm Beach County investigated the incident, saying in a memo on the case that the boy had been “disruptive and profane” and had chest-bumped another officer, but had not been injured in the incident.

“Officer Jones had the responsibility, along with the other officers present, to maintain control of the scene,” the memo said. “The action taken by Officer Jones controlled the juvenile and was not done merely with malicious intent.”
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That's why today we are also filing suit against one such regional SWAT team, called NEMLEC. This is a regional law enforcement council that maintains not just a SWAT squad but other militarized police type stuff, like a motorcycle unit and a BearCat armored truck.

When we asked NEMLEC (and the other law enforcement councils in Massachusetts) for records about their SWAT policies and deployments, we were startled to receive this response: we don't have to give you documents because we aren't government agencies.

Say what?

The law enforcement councils in our state are staffed by public police officials, sustained by government grants, and oversee law enforcement operations that involve busting down people's doors and arresting them. And they want to claim these entities are private, and therefore not subject to open records law?
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recurring theme: breaking the law to create crime and kill.

Marion County sheriff deputy's driver's license suspended before deadly wreck : News : CarolinaLive.com

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The driver's license of a Marion County Sheriff's Deputy who struck and killed a man on his moped last Wednesday was suspended at the time of the accident, according to Marion County Sheriff Mark Richardson.

Richardson said the deputy's license had been suspended since February for failure to pay a speeding ticket.

Richardson added the ticket was issued in another county.

He said his office does license checks on all their deputies once a year, and in August the check on this deputy came back clear.

Richardson said he learned after the wreck that the deputy's license had been suspended.

Richardson said the deputy has been placed on unpaid administrative leave.

His name still isn't being released. We are waiting to learn when the sheriff's office learned of the officer's suspended license.
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recurring theme: living large being above the law.

http://www.thetimesherald.com/articl...getting-ticket

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Memphis Police Chief Jessica Beels was found to be at fault in a crash Monday that flipped a delivery truck and caused extensive damage to a new police cruiser, according to the Michigan State Police.

But she won’t be ticketed.

Lt. Mike Shaw, Second District public information officer for the Michigan State Police, said Beels won’t be cited because she was on duty at the time of the crash.

“Any discipline that she would face would come from her department,” Shaw said.

“We don’t usually cite on-duty troopers, on-duty police officers.”
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new theme: taser give crazy homeless guy the power to escape. in favor of that.

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recurring theme: no youre not detained. WAIT COME BACK YOU'RE DETAINED!!!!! MY badge number and name?! no, you're free to leave I cant detain you.



new theme: second cop, guthrie, that shows up deserves a free donut!!!! deserves 12 free donuts and a large coffee.
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recurring theme: i hope your son dies.


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A Chicago man and his 9-year-old son were on the way to his mother’s house when they were pulled over by Chicago PD.

The man, who was well with in his rights to do so, chose not to roll down his window all the way during this shakedown.

This upset the harassing officer. The officer then refused to give the man a reason for why he was pulled over.

After detaining the man and his son for several minutes, and realizing that they had pulled over an innocent man for no reason, they were allowed to leave.

Upon leaving, the man asks again, “Can I get the probable cause for why you pulled me over?”

To which the officer finally replies, “We got some reports of shots fired and saw you turn around.”

As if a man would be on a drive-by shooting with his child!

Right at the end of the video the officer and the driver exchange words, at which point the officer says, “Hopefully your child dies.”
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