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Old 12-05-2013, 09:24 AM   #841
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Each state that runs its own police force (all of them) should be required to have some sort of Internal Affairs. But it should be detached from the police department and mixed into the state's justice system. When someone wants to make a complaint against the police, you should be going to a courthouse, not a precinct. That way complaints and other actions become a matter of public record, can be run by the citizens, and the police can actually be held accountable--this will also limit the power of the Police Union and help prevent things from being swept under the rug, and probably reduce the number of cops that get away with shooting dogs for no reason. Only a few states/cities have something like this.

One of our government's only actual jobs is protecting us from criminals and protecting our rights. So basically police and courts (and an army). This is the justification for actually having a government in the first place. But if you're going to allow the police to have legal use of force over its citizens without any real sort of checks and balances, then you're violating what you set out to do in the first place.

"But a government that initiates the employment of force against men who had forced no one, the employment of armed compulsion against disarmed victims, is a nightmare infernal machine designed to annihilate morality: such a government reverses its only moral purpose and switches from the role of protector to the role of man’s deadliest enemy, from the role of policeman to the role of a criminal vested with the right to the wielding of violence against victims deprived of the right of self-defense. Such a government substitutes for morality the following rule of social conduct: you may do whatever you please to your neighbor, provided your gang is bigger than his."

"The nature of governmental action is: *coercive* action. The nature of political power is: the power to force obedience under threat of physical injury—the threat of property expropriation, imprisonment, or death."
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Old 12-05-2013, 02:51 PM   #842
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Unarmed Man Is Charged With Wounding Bystanders Shot by Police Near Times Square

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An unarmed, emotionally disturbed man shot at by the police as he was lurching around traffic near Times Square in September has been charged with assault, on the theory that he was responsible for bullet wounds suffered by two bystanders, according to an indictment unsealed in State Supreme Court in Manhattan on Wednesday.
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Old 12-05-2013, 05:22 PM   #844
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Hold the **** up, wait. So this guy is charged with wounding bystanders... with the officers bullets that they fired at him? WHAT THE ****!?

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Old 12-06-2013, 01:20 AM   #845
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So I'm in the living room watching these videos, getting pissed off, talking to the cops/victims in a stern voice...**** you, dont do it, lol border checks. I have family in South Texas, south of a border check, so these videos are very relevant.

Wife: You and your Dad can keep messing with the border patrol all you want, as long as the kids and I aren't in the car.

Me: So we should only protect our rights when its convenient?

Wife: Your putting us in danger.

Me: That's why you should stand up for yourself, you shouldn't feel endangered when your not breaking the law.

Wife: They never bother me.

Me: We shouldn't have to show our papers to travel in country.

Wife: Your just antagonizing them.

Me: Ma'm US Border Patrol, show me your ****.

Wife: **** you.

Me: Yahtzee
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Old 12-06-2013, 10:16 AM   #846
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Bellevue cop charged with DUI; fellow officer under fire for not arresting him | Q13 FOX News

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A Bellevue policeman and his off-duty co-worker are being investigated after the on-duty officer failed to arrest his off-duty cohort during an apparent DUI stop.

The prosecutor’s office in the city of Issaquah charged officer Andrew Hanke with DUI on Thursday afternoon.

According to the Bellevue Police Department, police officials are performing an internal investigation regarding the actions of the officer who failed to arrest Hanke.
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Old 12-06-2013, 10:17 AM   #847
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Hold the **** up, wait. So this guy is charged with wounding bystanders... with the officers bullets that they fired at him? WHAT THE ****!?

Because cops like to charge you for anything they can think, just to make a point, and let you have to deal with it in court.
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Old 12-06-2013, 10:25 AM   #848
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Georgia Court Invalidates Search Over A Misplaced License Decal

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The Georgia Court of Appeals divided 3 to 2 last month on the question of whether police were wrong to search a motorist merely because he appeared nervous and had his license plate decal on the wrong corner of the plate. On July 24, 2009, a patrolman stopped James Heard hoping to issue a ticket for a tag violation when he did not see a 2009 registration sticker. The officer had also been on the lookout for the type of Chevy S-10 truck Heard was driving.

Stopped on the side of the road, Heard explained his registration was up to date and handed over proof, along with his license and insurance card. In the course of the stop, two other officers arrived and surrounded the pickup truck. The patrolman noted that Heard appeared nervous, then checked and confirmed that there was a license decal on the left side of the license plate instead of the right side. At this point, the officer testified in court that his investigation of the traffic violation had ended, but the officer decided to ask consent to search the pickup truck. Heard said no. Heard then understood the officer to order him out of the vehicle, and he was frisked for weapons. He was asked about a search once again, and after he consented the officers found six pieces of crack cocaine.
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Deputy fired, arrested in Walton case (ARREST REPORT) - Local - Northwest Florida Daily News

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A Walton County sheriff’s deputy has been charged with dealing in stolen property.

Lester Rodgers, a deputy since 2007, is charged with stealing and pawning the knife of a friend, according to the Sheriff’s Office.

Rodgers was arrested Wednesday morning and has been fired, a Sheriff’s Office news release said.

“This is difficult but the right thing to do,” Sheriff Mike Adkinson said in the release. “The public has to have faith in our profession, and we will hold ourselves accountable.”
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Garland Cop Charged With Manslaughter After Firing on Chase Suspect 41 Times

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At first, the official story of what happened in the early morning hours of August 31, 2012, was that 25-year-old Michael Vincent Allen had led police on a high-speed chase through Garland and Mesquite before being herded into a cul de sac. In a last-ditch attempt to escape, he rammed a Garland PD squad car. The cop inside, fearing for his life, opened fire, killing Allen.

Within two weeks, the narrative had been revised. Vincent hadn't rammed the cop; the cop had rammed him. The "multiple rounds" the officer had fired became 41, with two pauses to reload.
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Milwaukee Police Detective Rodolfo Gomez Jr. fired for pummeling cuffed suspect while repeatedly telling him to stop resisting.

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MILWAUKEE (WITI) — FOX6 News has learned Milwaukee Police Chief Ed Flynn has fired Detective Rodolfo Gomez Jr. — who was served with his termination papers on Wednesday, December 4th.

His firing comes after Gomez Jr. was charged with one count of misconduct in public office after he allegedly used excessive force on a suspect during an interrogation.
Gomez, a 12-year veteran of MPD, is accused of striking a suspect during an August interrogation at the Milwaukee Police Administration Building.

According to the criminal complaint, Gomez was assigned to assist with an investigation into the homicide of an infant. During the investigation process, Gomez initiated an interrogation of a suspect.

During the interrogation, the suspect allegedly began yelling at Gomez. Then, Gomez pushed the suspect into the corner of the interrogation room and punched him in the face and upper body multiple times with a closed fist, according to the complaint.

The complaint indicates Gomez is also accused of striking the suspect with his knee.

According to the complaint, Gomez repeatedly told the suspect to stay down and stop resisting. The complaint indicates the suspect, whose left hand was handcuffed, never struck Gomez.
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Old 12-06-2013, 10:32 AM   #852
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D.C. police officer under investigation for sex trafficking after runaway teen, drugs found at home

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D.C. police are investigating whether one of their own officers was running a prostitution ring after investigators found a runaway girl and other young women at his home in Southeast Washington.

According to documents filed in federal court, a 16-year-old girl who had gone missing told police that the officer bought sexy clothes for her and set up a “date” for her with an older white male for $80. The girl, who had been missing for a week, told police that six other women had also worked out of the home in the 3066 Stanton Road SE.
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Old 12-06-2013, 10:33 AM   #853
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Cops suspended for cursing at kids on school bus | wtsp.com

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Two Dalton police officers were suspended for cursing at a bus full of children, and the entire incident was captured on video.

It began when a stressed out bus driver pulled over and warned students she would call police if the students on board didn't quiet down. Two Dalton police officers responded.

"You want to act like a bunch of hellions and she can't f****** focus on what she's doing," Officer John Gurrieri can be heard saying to the students.

Officer Steven Collins talked to one student off the bus, using one swear word. Officer John Gurrieri talked to the rest of the kids, cursing multiple times.

"You want to act like crazy a**holes, do it at home," Gurrieri is heard saying on the school bus video.
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Sheriff’s deputy placed on leave following run-in with editor | The Today File | Seattle Times

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A King County sheriff’s deputy who threatened a newspaper editor with arrest during a sidewalk confrontation in July has been placed on administrative leave pending the final results of an internal investigation into his behavior.

King County Sheriff John Urquhart confirmed today that Deputy Patrick Saulet was placed on paid administrative leave before Thanksgiving for allegedly threatening to arrest Dominic Holden, news editor for The Stranger weekly newspaper.

Holden wrote that he was riding his bike past Fourth Avenue South and South Jackson Street about 7:25 p.m. on July 30 when he saw six law enforcement officers surrounding a man who was seated on a planter box at a transit station.

Holden said he took a photo from a public sidewalk of Saulet, who told Holden to leave the area or risk arrest. Holden then spoke to a Seattle police officer, who reportedly threatened to come to Holden’s office and bother him while he was working.

Taking photos of police activity on public property is legal.

“As long as they are not directly interfering with an investigation, they have a right to stand there and videotape or take photos,” said sheriff’s spokeswoman Sgt. Cindi West following the incident.


In addition to writing about the incident, Holden filed complaints with both the King County Sheriff’s Office and Seattle Police Department.
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This almost sounds like some **** i had to go through. I was stopped a few years ago for an out of date tag. I HAD the current sticker on the tag, but apparently someone either peeled it off, or somehow it fell off, which is unlikely. My receipt was misplaced somehow, so I could not provide the proof to the officer, though it should have been in his system had he looked it up. I was given a ticket and a court date. Took time out of my busy schedule to go to the DMV and get a replacement sticker for something like $3, and the clerk told me the officer should have been able to see in the system that I did indeed have up to date tag. I replaced the sticker and went on about my business until my court date which was 2 months down the road. Court date came and went while I was in the process of changing jobs and busy with other ****, which I realized a few days after my court date. I called as soon as I thought about it to explain to the magistrate why I missed my court date, but this unfriendly, rude bitch told me they had already put a warrant out for my arrest and I needed to turn myself in right away. So I go sit in jail for a few hours and let them run me through the system before I can bail myself out for a nice $500 or so. End up at court a few weeks later and go through all of that bullshit, just to have the city prosecutor tell me he was sorry for my experience and that it shouldn't have happened, and all charges were dropped and I was refunded most of my fees. Ugh, at least someone in the system saw how ridiculous of a waste for everyone that experience was and wasn't a complete dick about it, like I was some kind of lifetime criminal (perfectly clear record prior).
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The Men Impersonating Police Officers Robbing People At Gunpoint In Detroit... Were Police Officers | Elite Daily

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We reported a story a few days ago about men impersonating police officers and robbing innocent civilians at gunpoint in Detroit. As it turns out, the men were actual police officers terrorizing the people of their jurisdiction.

Two men — one a sergeant and 20 year veteran with the Detroit Police Department —are accused of running up on citizens and robbing them at gunpoint.
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2012 NYPD shootings by the numbers: officers fired 331 shots, hit 16 targeted people, 24 dogs, and 14 bystanders

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The New York Times has the stats today from a police department report detailing all of the shootings in 2012 involving NYPD officers. More people were killed by police and more cops were shot last year than any other time during the Bloomberg administration.

People hit by NYPD gunfire: 30
People killed by NYPD gunfire: 16
People shot by the NYPD accidentally (bystanders or accidental discharge): 14
Total rounds fired by NYPD: 331
Total rounds fired during one incident in Washington Heights: 84
Officers shot: 13
Officers killed in shootings: 0
Officers who killed themselves with NYPD guns: 8
Dogs shot by NYPD: 24

Officers disciplined for violating deadly force guidelines: 1
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People killed by NYPD gunfire: 16

Officers killed in shootings: 0

Good to see they are doing their jobs. As I've always said, they use deadly force with far too little provocation. Some job they do to "protect and serve". They will kill someone at the first signs of danger to them, instead of exploring other options first. They signed up for the job knowing the risks, but they are unwilling to take risks.
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they are trained this way from the beginning.

Shooting simulator spurs grand jury questions

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The use of the shooting simulator, which was not widely known until a Houston Chronicle investigation, has prompted questions among defense attorneys and civil rights activists about whether it could prejudice grand juries. Harris County grand juries have cleared HPD officers in shootings 288 consecutive times.

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‘Self-defense’ primer

The DA’s office, which began using the simulator in 2003, contends it helps grand jurors understand pressures of police work and the split-second decisions officers must make. Harris County District Attorney Devon Anderson said the simulations educate jurors about situations when self-defense claims are legitimate — not just for police officers but for all residents.

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“This seems to be a brainwashing that all but guarantees immunity for the cops,” Burke said about the simulator. “It really seems outrageous and holds the potential of tainting the jury.”

The reality that police have been nearly immune from criminal charges in shootings concerns the most senior Harris County criminal judge, who noted that grand juries indict a much higher number of defendants in other types of cases.
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