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07-10-2016, 10:30 AM
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Seriously.
It's not just a funny picture. In the grand scheme of things, nature does not respect your so-called "rights" and "liberties." These are fictions created by man, and valid only so long as a majority of men agree to acknowledge them.
Your life only matters if you make it matter. Nothing is given for free.
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07-10-2016, 12:28 PM
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^and that's just a picture of one galaxy. There are more galaxies in our known universe than have ever been humanoid creatures to exist on earth. (over 100 billion galaxies)
Anytime someone says "black lives matter" or something of the sort, I just respond with "no lives matter"
But I'm kinda nihilistic.
Anytime someone says "black lives matter" or something of the sort, I just respond with "no lives matter"
But I'm kinda nihilistic.
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07-14-2016, 11:32 AM
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Joe, dear sweet Joe, relegated to a tiny ramshackle tenement in New Jersey, hunched over a water hose and a discarded motorbike radiator for life sustaining warmth, wearing the same old, giant boots he's worn for the entirety of last year, drinking bottom-shelf rot-gut whiskey to sedate the aches of walking miles each day to find work. Dear Joe walks and walks but those who help themselves to his earnings often drive their own air conditioned automobiles, smoke fine tobaccos, and have homes much larger than Joe's humble tenement provided to them at Joe's expense. How much more do you think Joe can take? His big, filthy, pornographer's mustache isn't concealing a grin, but a grimace. He's injured, bruised, wounded beneath the frivolous faded joy of his Hawaiian print shirt. And yet they are not sated, and bear no remorse. How much more shall Joe quietly endure? How much is allofit?
Somehow I missed this the first time around.
I will say that I bought a moderately-priced pair of running shoes several months ago when I started to get serous about this jogging thing, so now I'm up to two pairs of shoes in total.
But yes, otherwise living the peasant life (on the upper-east side) on a low six-figure salary, which is well below the mean average for this neighborhood. Average income for a household in the UES is $181k, and median home price is $989,893: Upper East Side Demographics & Statistics ? Employment, Education, Income Averages, Crime in Upper East Side ? Point2 Homes
Huh, technically I'm poor. As in, literally, not figuratively. Never really noticed that before.
A few days ago I was in Chicago. The airport, the train stations, and the building where I was working all had this sign posted:
I felt very safe knowing that nobody was going to shoot me while I was in those places. If someone wants to attack me, they will have to use a bladed weapon. And like all people with Hispanic surnames, I am a skilled knife-fighter and a passable swordsman.
Anyway, that having been said:
Black Lives Matter.
Unless they are multiplied by the speed of light squared, in which case Black Lives Energy.
Unless they are multiplied by the speed of light squared, in which case Black Lives Energy.
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07-14-2016, 09:06 PM
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New DOJ Statistics on Race and Violent Crime
Heather Mac Donald of the Manhattan Institute has just published a table of statistics on race and violent crime that she received from the Department of Justice. For the first time in figures of this kind, DOJ has treated Hispanics as a separate category rather than lumping them in with whites. These data cover all violent crimes except murder, but the number of murders is tiny compared to other violent crimes.
This table can be used for a number of interesting calculations. First, we find that during the 2012/2013 period, blacks committed an average of 560,600 violent crimes against whites, whereas whites committed only 99,403 such crimes against blacks. This means blacks were the attackers in 84.9 percent of the violent crimes involving blacks and whites. This figure is consistent with reports from 2008, the last year DOJ released similar statistics. Perhaps not coincidentally, that was the year Mr. Obama was elected president.
Interestingly, we find that violent interracial crime involving blacks and Hispanics occurs in almost exactly the same proportions as black/white crime: Blacks are the attackers 82.5 percent of the time, while Hispanics are attackers only 17.5 percent of the time.
Some observers argue that what causes the overwhelming preponderance of black-on-white over white-on-black violence is “chance of encounter,” due to the fact that there are five times as many whites as blacks in the American population. However, there are only about 30 percent more Hispanics than blacks, yet black-on-Hispanic violence is almost as lopsided as black-on-white violence. This suggests blacks may be deliberately targeting both whites and Hispanics.
Using figures for the 2013 racial mix of the population–62.2 percent white, 17.1 percent Hispanic, 13.2 percent black–we can calculate the average likelihood of a person of each race attacking the other. A black is 27 times more likely to attack a white and 8 times more likely to attack a Hispanic than the other way around. A Hispanic is eight times more likely to attack a white than vice versa.
We can also calculate how often criminals of each group choose victims of other races. As indicated below, when whites commit violence they choose fellow whites as victims 82.4 percent of the time, and almost never attack blacks. Blacks attack whites almost as often as they attack blacks, and Hispanics attack whites more often than they attack any other group, including their own.
There is much media agonizing over black-on-black violence, but these figures show that only 40.1 percent of the victims of black violence are black, while people of other races account for nearly 60 percent of the victims of black violence.
The change in DOJ reporting to consider Hispanics a separate category is long overdue. American Renaissance first pointed out 16 years ago the incoherence of failing to account for Hispanics as offenders. DOJ has long counted Hispanics as a victim category in its hate crime reports. We look forward to their inclusion as a perpetrator category.
New DOJ Statistics on Race and Violent Crime | American Renaissance
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07-15-2016, 09:08 AM
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Pretty much.
You see the same effect in police shootings. While black people are killed by cops at a rate disproportionately high as compared to their demographic representation in the US, if you factor in the rate at which blacks commit violent crimes as compared to whites, the rate at which they encounter violence at the hands of police is actually disproportionately low relative to other racial groups.
And this is a relatively recent trend over the past decade or so. It's almost as though cops have become afraid to shoot / taze / club black people for fear of internal reprisal, and the BLM movement is basically just playing catch-up.
You see the same effect in police shootings. While black people are killed by cops at a rate disproportionately high as compared to their demographic representation in the US, if you factor in the rate at which blacks commit violent crimes as compared to whites, the rate at which they encounter violence at the hands of police is actually disproportionately low relative to other racial groups.
And this is a relatively recent trend over the past decade or so. It's almost as though cops have become afraid to shoot / taze / club black people for fear of internal reprisal, and the BLM movement is basically just playing catch-up.
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07-15-2016, 09:17 AM
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You see the same effect in police shootings. While black people are killed by cops at a rate disproportionately high as compared to their demographic representation in the US, if you factor in the rate at which blacks commit violent crimes as compared to whites, the rate at which they encounter violence at the hands of police is actually disproportionately low relative to other racial groups.
And this is a relatively recent trend over the past decade or so. It's almost as though cops have become afraid to shoot / taze / club black people for fear of internal reprisal, and the BLM movement is basically just playing catch-up.
And this is a relatively recent trend over the past decade or so. It's almost as though cops have become afraid to shoot / taze / club black people for fear of internal reprisal, and the BLM movement is basically just playing catch-up.
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07-15-2016, 09:36 AM
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Or, in plain English, this just doesn't happen very often:
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07-15-2016, 09:59 AM
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You'd need to know the percentage of said killings which were justifiable uses of force, as compared to what we might deem as extra-judicial execution. Regardless of race, the percentage of police killings which are un-justifiable is extremely minuscule in the grand scheme of things, and thus rather difficult to measure reliably. As such, the concept of "conviction rate" is essentially irrelevant, as a single conviction or exoneration would have a wildly disproportionate effect on the statistic.
Or, in plain English, this just doesn't happen very often:
Or, in plain English, this just doesn't happen very often:
If I sit down with a black person who feels that black people have been treated unjustly and that the American justice system is a much more treacherous place for black people than for white people, I doubt that I will ease their concerns by saying, "Look! The conviction rates for killer-cops are within the measurement error bars for both white folks and black folks! Don't you feel better now?"
I'm not asking the question about conviction rates in order to build a persuasive argument (for either, or any, side of the debate). I'm asking it in order to figure out why one group of people has decided to make a public issue of their treatment at the hands of the justice system. When I see a story about a copy beating some white homeless guy, I don't think to myself, "Oh geez, cops always beating down the white man. I bet he gets away with it, too." Why do so many black people (apparently) perceive the world this way?
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07-15-2016, 12:30 PM
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One theory is related to the entitlement mentality. They might get free stuff or preferential treatment if enough people buy into it.
Or maybe they are more likely through cultural reasons to complain to each other over and over, making it seem like it is more of a problem because they hear it so often.
Am I the only one who remembers that there was real, organized violence by the police against blacks captured on film and described in our history books? Saying what we see today is social injustice really trivializes what occurred previously.
Or maybe they are more likely through cultural reasons to complain to each other over and over, making it seem like it is more of a problem because they hear it so often.
Am I the only one who remembers that there was real, organized violence by the police against blacks captured on film and described in our history books? Saying what we see today is social injustice really trivializes what occurred previously.
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