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Old 06-12-2012, 08:54 AM   #2201
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Oh ----, and all this time I thought otherwise. thanks blaen, so informative, i was so lost, and now im found. Us libertarians have to stick together and really be liberals ya know.

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Old 06-12-2012, 11:32 AM   #2203
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From Homeless to Harvard, what the gov't doesn't want you to see:

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If I may be totally serious for a moment, why doesn't the government want me to see that?

I assume you are speaking of the Fed, rather than the relevant state or local governments, though I'm not clear on which branch would have the most to gain by keeping me ignorant of the fact that a 17 year old homeless girl got a part-time job and was later accepted to Harvard (presumably on a full scholarship.)
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Old 06-12-2012, 11:36 AM   #2204
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I assume you are speaking of the Fed, rather than the relevant state or local governments
pretty much, just my typical hyperbole fluffe.


meanwhile in the DOJ:

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The US Department of Justice announced Monday it will sue Florida to stop the state from purging ineligible voters from its voter rolls. The DOJ statement came after Florida filed suit against the Department of Homeland Security for failing to cooperate with efforts to clean up the state's voter registration records.
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Old 06-12-2012, 11:53 AM   #2205
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(video about college costs in CA)
Let's explore the average cost for one year of in-state undergraduate tuition / fees for a selection of public universities which I will draw at random, based on their own published data, for the 2011-2012 school year. I base this on 12 credit hours per semester x 2 semesters:

Cal State: $6,521
National Average: $7,186
University of Washington: $10,346
University of Virginia: $11,794


So, California is starting out about 10% below the national average, and nearly half as much as in Brainey's home state. I guess it's understandable for some random guy to be creating a nice little slideshow about how raising tuition under these circumstances is somehow massively unfair.

No, wait. Actually, that makes no sense at all.
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Old 06-12-2012, 11:58 AM   #2206
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you cant use uva.

use va tech, jmu, gmu, or vcu.



and i too took a comic book class. I sat in a metaphyics class at uva once, my head almost exploded.

Like I could at random pick UoC, see it's $13,200 a year. and then read that it takes in roughly 5 billion each year in endowments...

then look at something like VCU, see it's $5,000 a year (after fees) and then read it takes in about $350 million in endowments...

cal state still has a 1 billion endowment.

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Why can't I use UVA? It's a large, public university which gives preferential tuition treatment to in-state students. And Cal State isn't exactly a community college.

That's kind of the problem, really. Depending on what you include, what you exclude, and how you slant the data, one can make pretty much any kind of assertion / comparison / "proof" imaginable. Simply putting together a slick video does not (or should not) lend credence to such arguments, especially when said video gives no actual numbers nor does it cite any sources.

It honestly makes me sad to see some of this kind of hysterical and unfounded (but glossy) populist nonsense splattered all over the same forum in which certain people are making logical and rational arguments.
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Old 06-12-2012, 02:29 PM   #2208
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yeah yeah, video still make some valid points.
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Old 06-12-2012, 03:20 PM   #2209
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yeah yeah, video still make some valid points.
If they're completely serious about having an entire course about Middle Earth, then I'll agree to that.

If you're talking about the various arguments they make concerning money, then it's really impossible to know, as no hard data is actually presented.

So the cost of tuition at some universities in California is going up. But what does that mean? What is the cost going up from for instance?

The cost of tuition at some California public universities is, at present, abnormally low as compared to the national average. In part, this is because of price controls imposed by the state government. So, to that extent, this is simply an example of the government decreasing regulation of a certain industry, and allowing the pricing of its services to seek a natural equilibrium with the market. Historically speaking, this forum has tended to concede universally to that notion.
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I've written about why most colleges increase costs before, I did an analogy to the price of a music CD...let me see if I can find it.


Middle Earth is important! I took a Comic Book history class for some stupid electives I needed, as well as some human sexuality class...my general elective classes were a joke. I took a class called Wonders of Physics for a science elective.


anyways, Tom De Haven was the Comic Book class guy, he's written a few books on Superman actually
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He took that ---- serious and I almost failed the class...It was actually worse then the Art History classes I had to take. But it beat all the other choices for a literture credit. rofl.
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----------ers gotta talk like that?
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I'm always amazed that people either have that much time or are willing to devote that much time to watching some of these videos. That's almost a half hour worth of video in post #2211.
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I'm always amazed that people either have that much time or are willing to devote that much time to watching some of these videos. That's almost a half hour worth of video in post #2211.
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I'm always amazed that people either have that much time or are willing to devote that much time to watching some of these videos. That's almost a half hour worth of video in post #2211.
My operating assumption is that if it's a video and nobody could be bothered to spend their time writing it up, then it's not worth my time to watch it.

Reading for the win. Give me text.
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My operating assumption is that if it's a video and nobody could be bothered to spend their time writing it up, then it's not worth my time to watch it.

Reading for the win. Give me text.
I cannot begin to tell you how much it pleases me to see another forum member stand up and make this same argument.
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I cannot begin to tell you how much it pleases me to see another forum member stand up and make this same argument.
I almost never watch video. I can do some low-level speed reading so text is a way faster way for me to digest information.


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Im logged on fb all the time i'm awake... no issues finding time to watch stuff but i multitask like a ****. Currently i'm watching cheaters, chatting on skype video, responding in this thread while looking at another one, chatting on fb and eating brakefast.
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This started with Elizabeth Warren, right? Apparently her scholarly work is less than scholarly:

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...-to-Know-About

Her co-author Teresa Sullivan--president of the University of Virginia--resigned unexpectedly yesterday. Hmmmm........
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She's a pathological liar and has finally been outted. She's plagerized stuff in publishings and lied about her family and heritege.
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