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Old 11-21-2011, 04:49 PM   #401
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yes of course it hurts the business but it doesn't make sense for me to have the business's best interest as a priority just as it does not make business sense for the company to have my personal interests as their priority

edit: i should have elaborated on the people quitting thing.
yes i view quitting and striking as essentially the same thing
when most people quit a job such as myself what i do is refuse to work for the company tell my friends and anyone who asks why i quit.
when people go on strike they refuse to work and actively inform many people why they quit via protesting.
i dont see much difference
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There's a huge difference. You seem to be a man that stands behind a contract. Well, when you agree to a job, you are signing a contract...that you'll work few X amount of hours, for Y amount of pay, in Z enviroment. When you strike, you are changing the rules. You are not obligating your contract, and you and using dirty tricks to force your hand. It's not longer a mutal agreement, you decide that you have special rights and use force to win a "negotiation", which most liekly didn't take effect.

When you quit, you simple terminate the agreement. The employer finds someone else he subjectively determines is fit for hte job at the price HE is willing to pay.
Brain hits on the distinction. When people simply quit, and leave vacant a job opening, the employer then has the option to fill that job opening with a new worker. If no one will take the job because it has a crappy reputation, the employer can either raise the pay or improve the conditions.

When unions strike, they prevent new non-union workers from filling those vacant positions.


Again, keep in mind the two "pools of money" being divided when discussing private vs public sector unions. Intelligent private sector management and employees do have a vested interest in the overall success of the firm for which they work, especially if incentives are structured correctly.

With public sector unions, there is no such aligned goals because management (politicians) and the unions are negotiating over other peoples' money (the broader taxpayer base).
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When people simply quit, and leave vacant a job opening, the employer then has the option to fill that job opening with a new worker.
Let's also not forget that if Gary and Fred just decide to quit at the same time, in hopes of forcing the company's hand, and then Gary decides he'd rather just go back to work since his bills are piling up, Fred isn't allowed to threaten him with bodily harm.

Yes, I know, technically unions aren't allowed to threaten with bodily harm, either, but we're talking about the real world, here, right?
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Oh those "99%" sons of bitches
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Old 11-21-2011, 07:34 PM   #404
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Yes, I know, technically unions aren't allowed to threaten with bodily harm, either, but we're talking about the real world, here, right?
Non-Union Business Owner Shot, ‘SCAB’ Carved Into Car
August 17, 2011 at 2:15 pm

A business owner in Southeastern Michigan was shot last week after confronting a man carving “SCAB” into his car. John King, the shooting victim, owns King Electrical Services, the largest non-union electrical contractor in the area.

Last Wednesday, King reportedly awoke at night to find someone in his driveway vandalizing his car. When King stepped outside, the man shot him in the arm and fled.

King has been forced to endure other incidents of harassment by labor unions, the Daily Caller’s Matthew Boyle reports:
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Old 11-21-2011, 07:59 PM   #405
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You know whats funny, while these ******* losers are sitting around running their mouths, I'm too busy working to even keep up with this bullshit. I mean for ***** sake go home and go back to work or GET A ******* JOB!

Whether I agree with anything they stand for or not, idiots like that DO NOT speak for me.

Give me some riot gear and let me have at these *****. I swear I'd start night sticking people in the face when they start shouting their mouths off like that lady did.

Like I said, whether I agree or not, this is enough already.
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Old 11-21-2011, 08:46 PM   #406
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End of World is Nigh, etc.

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Dear Clients, Industry Colleagues and Friends of Barnhardt Capital Management,

It is with regret and unflinching moral certainty that I announce that Barnhardt Capital Management has ceased operations. After six years of operating as an independent introducing brokerage, and eight years of employment as a broker before that, I found myself, this morning, for the first time since I was 20 years old, watching the futures and options markets open not as a participant, but as a mere spectator.

The reason for my decision to pull the plug was excruciatingly simple: I could no longer tell my clients that their monies and positions were safe in the futures and options markets – because they are not. And this goes not just for my clients, but for every futures and options account in the United States. The entire system has been utterly destroyed by the MF Global collapse. Given this sad reality, I could not in good conscience take one more step as a commodity broker, soliciting trades that I knew were unsafe or holding funds that I knew to be in jeopardy.
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Finally, I will not, under any circumstance, consider reforming and re-opening Barnhardt Capital Management, or any other iteration of a brokerage business, until Barack Obama has been removed from office AND the government of the United States has been sufficiently reformed and repopulated so as to engender my total and complete confidence in the government, its adherence to and enforcement of the rule of law, and in its competent and just regulatory oversight of any commodities markets that may reform. So long as the government remains criminal, it would serve no purpose whatsoever to attempt to rebuild the futures industry or my firm, because in a lawless environment, the same thievery and fraud would simply happen again, and the criminals would go unpunished, sheltered by the criminal oligarchy.
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oh that's just badass.
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But, but, but...I've been told that regime uncertainty is NOT a reason for the continued economic troubles!
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But, but, but...I've been told that regime uncertainty is NOT a reason for the continued economic troubles!
In fairness, a Manta search (of which I have no way to verify its accuracy) says the firm employeed 1-4 people and generated revenue of $1 to $2.5 million.

She also has multiple YouTube presentations discussing how she laced a Koran with bacon and then burned it, after which she suggested any Muslim that didn't like it could come find her... since she was "better armed than the French military."
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but how many clients?
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If enough of us remember that we're still Americans and have a duty to act like it, Hope & Change will pass like a bad case of diarrhea.
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but how many clients?
No clue. And to be clear, she was a hedge broker, not a "hedge fund manager." From her website: "Actual hedging of actual cattle and grain using futures and options."

If her clients stopped using her services to hedge their price exposure in grain and cattle, I don't know that it means they shut down their ranches and farms.
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She may be crazy, but I like this kind of crazy.
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Her videos are fairly entertaining. She seems to make some good points in between use of the word jackass.
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