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Old 12-03-2015, 07:04 PM   #5661
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I am so sick of hearing that something discriminates against the poor. That's what being poor is. You don't get to go to the nicer restaurants, you don't get the nicest electronic gadgets, you don't get to hang out at the country club. Not having is supposed to motivate you to be not poor, not to expect free crap from everyone, or have perfectly reasonable solutions shot down because the poor don't get to participate.
I guess they shouldn't expect to be safe either cause hey, that's what being poor is.

Maybe discrimination isn't the appropriate word but I can see how the game could be tilted towards the wealthier. I can see the point.
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Where's the graph that notes the amount of gang-related drive by shootings, and number of victims.

I'd like to lay that graph over the "mass shootings" graph and see how they line up...
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I guess they shouldn't expect to be safe either cause hey, that's what being poor is.

Maybe discrimination isn't the appropriate word but I can see how the game could be tilted towards the wealthier. I can see the point.



if poor people want to be safe, don't live in cities full of democratic voters with guns.

there's an overwhelming high amount of violence in areas full of: black people, food stamp recipients, democratic voters, and lower incomes.

you determine what that actually means. hint: it's not because I'm racist.
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Where's the graph that notes the amount of gang-related drive by shootings, and number of victims.

I'd like to lay that graph over the "mass shootings" graph and see how they line up...



i dont think there's good enough records on gang/inner city violence (at least not nationwide, maybe each city/state)... but im certain it probably accounts for a good portion of the above.
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Old 12-03-2015, 07:52 PM   #5665
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if poor people want to be safe, don't live in cities full of democratic voters with guns.

there's an overwhelming high amount of violence in areas full of: black people, food stamp recipients, democratic voters, and lower incomes.

you determine what that actually means. hint: it's not because I'm racist.
You know what they say about numbers and graphs... Frankly, other than don't live in DC I don't see how you can draw the link between black democratic voters with guns from what you show. There's a lot of big cities in the states you show, which would normally tilt the numbers towards them that aren't out of the curve.

Maybe you can find more 'statistics'.
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It is far safer to be poor in the country. There's less dirt bags per square mile.
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i dont think there's good enough records on gang/inner city violence (at least not nationwide, maybe each city/state)... but im certain it probably accounts for a good portion of the above.
Jeez, Eric Holder's "Fast n' Furious" gun-walking scheme put 2,000 guns in the hands of drug dealers. Many of the guns were found at the scenes of homocides of over 150 people.

Perhaps if we outlawed stupid government officials then gun violence would be reduced...
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I am so sick of hearing that something discriminates against the poor. That's what being poor is. You don't get to go to the nicer restaurants, you don't get the nicest electronic gadgets, you don't get to hang out at the country club. Not having is supposed to motivate you to be not poor, not to expect free crap from everyone, or have perfectly reasonable solutions shot down because the poor don't get to participate.
Pretty sure you're missing the point here, bub, but that's okay.
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You know what they say about numbers and graphs... Frankly, other than don't live in DC I don't see how you can draw the link between black democratic voters with guns from what you show. There's a lot of big cities in the states you show, which would normally tilt the numbers towards them that aren't out of the curve.

Maybe you can find more 'statistics'.
Maybe you should look for them, I know them already. Basically look at an Obama voter map, then a map of violent crime, then food stamp recipents, then black and Hispanic populations. Draw your own conclusions
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Maybe you should look for them, I know them already. Basically look at an Obama voter map, then a map of violent crime, then food stamp recipents, then black and Hispanic populations. Draw your own conclusions
I went and found my safe space as soon as you mentioned Obama.

Your skin color negates any pertinent comments you may have on culture, community, RACE, employment, drug use, use of the English language, urban customs, rap music, or even any memes containing people of color.

Assuming, that it, that you're a cracker.
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Jeez, Eric Holder's "Fast n' Furious" gun-walking scheme put 2,000 guns in the hands of drug dealers. Many of the guns were found at the scenes of homocides of over 150 people.
Maybe we ought to outlaw drug dealers. Oh wait...
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If anybody cares, I watched 3 large online stores today that have been 100% reliable for the past year having AR15 lower receivers in stock sell out of the current cheapest/most-popular brand.

The going price for Anderson lower receivers has been $39. I suspect over the next few days, the price will go up a bit and then they'll be gone for awhile and then pop up for $100. Palmetto State Armory (another 100% reliable source) still has their name-brand blemished lowers in stock for $59, which is pretty standard... but I expect them to be sold out by tomorrow.

Since the Cali incident was committed by natural-born citizen of this country who bought his guns legally (no word yet if they were Cali compliant with bullet-buttons and 10rd magazines), despite the fact that he was a radicalized Muslim terrorist, expect the usual suspects to dance in the blood and spool up congress for another go at an assault weapons ban (which will fail), but it will drive the price of some things up... AR15 lower receivers are already on the move as far as I can see.
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Rifles used in California were California compliant.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/rifles-ca...200550037.html
You wouldn't know it by all the talk of banning machine guns and assault rifles.
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They were California compliant when they were bought, but what has not been clarified was wither or not they were California compliant when the crime occurred.
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Good point.
We still don't have all the facts, but that didn't stop some despicable people from pouncing on the issue while the shooting was still going on.
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Good point.
We still don't have all the facts, but that didn't stop some despicable people from pouncing on the issue while the shooting was still going on.
I am quite skeptical of the efficacy of prayer in stopping these sorts of incidents, but I am far more bothered by the left's criticisms of what seems like a genuine expression of grief by the GOP candidates when it doesn't come with the prescribed solution (ineffective gun control) in their minds.
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Agreed. Knowing you can't do **** about a situation from a few thousand miles away and offering some solidarity doesn't make you an uncaring *******.
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I am quite skeptical of the efficacy of prayer in stopping these sorts of incidents, but I am far more bothered by the left's criticisms of what seems like a genuine expression of grief by the GOP candidates when it doesn't come with the prescribed solution (ineffective gun control) in their minds.
Maybe if those about to be shot prayed a bit more it'd help... Sorry, feeling a bit sarcastic today. I'm a gun owner. I also used to consider myself a centrist (whatever that means). I guess that puts me to the left today.

All things considered, I don't understand why it's such a left/right - blue/red subject. But so long as it is it'll never be resolved.

Having said all that, my property is getting overrun by squirrels this time of year and I want to buy a new gun to get the little fu***rs... Obviously, I need something with a lot of magazine capacity and quick to swap out. Care to pick one out for me?




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If anybody cares, I watched 3 large online stores today that have been 100% reliable for the past year having AR15 lower receivers in stock sell out of the current cheapest/most-popular brand.

The going price for Anderson lower receivers has been $39. I suspect over the next few days, the price will go up a bit and then they'll be gone for awhile and then pop up for $100. Palmetto State Armory (another 100% reliable source) still has their name-brand blemished lowers in stock for $59, which is pretty standard... but I expect them to be sold out by tomorrow.

Since the Cali incident was committed by natural-born citizen of this country who bought his guns legally (no word yet if they were Cali compliant with bullet-buttons and 10rd magazines), despite the fact that he was a radicalized Muslim terrorist, expect the usual suspects to dance in the blood and spool up congress for another go at an assault weapons ban (which will fail), but it will drive the price of some things up... AR15 lower receivers are already on the move as far as I can see.
I think I am going to drive over to PSA during lunch today and see if I can grab any of their cheap lowers. I sold off all my spares a while ago.
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