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Old 01-14-2016, 02:48 AM   #5761
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Old 01-15-2016, 03:18 PM   #5763
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Oregon occupiers ask public for supplies: get glitter, sex toys

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Old 01-16-2016, 02:52 PM   #5764
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I know this subject has been posted before but this link has a pretty good read on how & why they get away with it. Short version, while people have rights and corporations "are people my friend" and therefore also have rights, property has none.

The opening case I remember because it's local.

So, lest you think it can't happen to you.

http://priceonomics.com/how-police-o...from-innocent/

"On February 17, 2014, a 24-year-old college student named Charles Clarke checked a bag at Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport and parked himself in a chair near the boarding gate. Having just visited relatives, he was in high spirits, and eager to return to his home in Florida.

But Clarke’s day took an unexpected turn.

Two uniformed men -- an airport police detective and a local Drug Enforcement Administration officer -- approached by Clarke and corralled him into a fluorescent backroom. His checked bag sat on a table. One of the men turned to him and grunted, “This smells like marijuana.” An extensive search ensued, which yielded no trace of drugs in Clarke’s luggage. But buried between t-shirts, in the young man’s bag, the officers discovered something of greater interest: $11,000 in cash.

The cash, earned through five years of hard work at fast-food restaurants and retail outlets, represented Clarke’s life savings -- money he intended to use for tuition fees. But the officers didn’t buy his story. Based solely on the fact that his bag “smelled like weed,” they claimed that the $11,000 was related to drug trafficking and seized it."
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Old 01-16-2016, 03:14 PM   #5765
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The Civil Forfeiture thread is here: Civil Forfeiture seems unfairly administered to me.
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Old 01-19-2016, 11:56 AM   #5766
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I went and watched 13 Hours with my dad yesterday. It was exceptionally well written and acted. It was Michael Bay quality, but not Michael Bay over the top and silly.

That said, don't go see it. They were very careful not to say anything that could be taken as slanderous (libelous?), but their intent was obvious and well executed. The US government abandoned American citizens to be killed by partisan fighters. The mouthpiece for the President was murdered. The President and the Secretary of State lied about why the events happened to further their own agendas.

You will just leave the theater angry.

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Will killary finally be indicted? The fbi has found evidence of emails that contain sensitive classified info. Will it be swept under the carpet or will the current administration cut ties and sink her? The email part is obvious, i believe the damaging part will be the clinton foundation. Then there is bill and his connection to jeffrey epstein.
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Old 01-24-2016, 12:47 AM   #5769
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one of the best videos I've seen in a long time:

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Interesting article; Musk vs. Buffett: The Billionaire Battle to Own the Sun

After reading through the article and doing a fair bit of follow-on research I can see why a utility would have major heartburn with the basic concept of "net metering".

I own a business and we operate by the basic concept of; what you invoice for = whatever you buy + the costs to provide + profit margin. Basic business math.

Under the definition of Net Metering for those states I've researched, whatever electric put back into the grid lowers the amount of electric used by that amount (making the meter run backwards to simplify it). To me, all this does is to increase the cost of goods to the utility and ultimately force the utility to either eat the difference (profit) or to pass it along to the consumer. With the expanding use of solar, a good thing, you can see where this would become a zero sum game to the utility.

It seems to me a better solution would be a metering system whereby the electric put back into the grid would be "sold" at a rate of the "average rate" the utility purchased electricity from all, or 'other', sources. Obviously, this would cause the calculations of companies like Solar City and others business models to change but also serve to make them into "suppliers" to the utilities rather then competitors.

I admit to a lack of understanding where it relates to electricity production and distribution and obviously I'm oversimplifying a complex business model but I see that as a major problem that the regulators need to overcome.

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They should have sent them animal penises so they can still use them as food that way they know they will eat them.
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On a more somber note... An Oral History Of The Space Shuttle Challenger Disaster

I remember exactly where I was when I saw the news on the monitor then.

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Crooks can now put cameras on your property violating your privacy and its fine.

Welcome to the police states of america

Police Can Record Video Inside Your Home Without A Warrant, Appeals Court Says | ThinkProgress
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Crooks can now put cameras on your property violating your privacy and its fine.

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Police Can Record Video Inside Your Home Without A Warrant, Appeals Court Says | ThinkProgress
This is nothing new. It's just a logical extension of the Plain View Doctrine, which has been the law of the land for quite some time.

All this case has done is affirm that if you invite someone into your home, they can record what they see there. Nothing ground-breaking about that. Don't want people seeing the meth lab in your basement? Don't invite them in for a tour with an offer to sell them meth; the fourth amendment still stands.
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Yah, that one doesn't bother me as its just a recorded extension of what they are already "seeing" once allowed in. It just means that they all get photographic memory enhancements vs not seeing everything they likely 'should' when without video equipment.
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they still need warrants to put surveillance on your home.

this is factual actual.
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Can you tape a picture of a ***** in front of the camera?

According to the article they dont need warrants to place the cameras.
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