which chinacharger, of these two?
06-13-2010, 11:02 AM
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which chinacharger, of these two?
my power goal is ~250whp, but i'd obviously like a little bit of head room. maybe 275 eventually
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/t3-in...Q5fAccessories
2.http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/T3-T4...Q5fAccessories
looking at these things is giving me a headache. if neither of these is a good choice, link me to one that is?
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/t3-in...Q5fAccessories
2.http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/T3-T4...Q5fAccessories
looking at these things is giving me a headache. if neither of these is a good choice, link me to one that is?
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06-13-2010, 02:19 PM
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If the specs for #1 are correct, it looks like it has a stg 3 sized t3 exhaust wheel, and a 57 trim compressor wheel. I don't think that it will perform the same as a 3071, but I'm pretty sure you'll hit your goals with either one.
The second one looks to be a bit smaller on the cold side, but without the exducer measurement one can't do the math. Exhaust wheel appears to be the same as the first one.
I used one similar to the second one on my FE3 and got 265hp/290ft,tq @ 15psi. That was on a stock engine with larger injectors and a TEC2.
The second one looks to be a bit smaller on the cold side, but without the exducer measurement one can't do the math. Exhaust wheel appears to be the same as the first one.
I used one similar to the second one on my FE3 and got 265hp/290ft,tq @ 15psi. That was on a stock engine with larger injectors and a TEC2.
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06-13-2010, 03:03 PM
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the 3071 has a 53mm/71mm compressor. #1 turbo above has very similar size.
the 3017 has a 60mm turbine inducer. #1 turbo has a 63mm.
how is that not sized like a 3017?
no doubt you'll hit your goal with either one, but you'll be leaving tons of powerband on the table. For a 250-275rwhp goal I'd be looking for something in the 2560/2860/2871 range. or a straight 60 trim t3. a real 60 trim with a 60mm exducer, not 71mm.
the 3017 has a 60mm turbine inducer. #1 turbo has a 63mm.
how is that not sized like a 3017?
no doubt you'll hit your goal with either one, but you'll be leaving tons of powerband on the table. For a 250-275rwhp goal I'd be looking for something in the 2560/2860/2871 range. or a straight 60 trim t3. a real 60 trim with a 60mm exducer, not 71mm.
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06-13-2010, 03:24 PM
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the 3071 has a 53mm/71mm compressor. #1 turbo above has very similar size.
the 3017 has a 60mm turbine inducer. #1 turbo has a 63mm.
how is that not sized like a 3017?
no doubt you'll hit your goal with either one, but you'll be leaving tons of powerband on the table. For a 250-275rwhp goal I'd be looking for something in the 2560/2860/2871 range. or a straight 60 trim t3. a real 60 trim with a 60mm exducer, not 71mm.
the 3017 has a 60mm turbine inducer. #1 turbo has a 63mm.
how is that not sized like a 3017?
no doubt you'll hit your goal with either one, but you'll be leaving tons of powerband on the table. For a 250-275rwhp goal I'd be looking for something in the 2560/2860/2871 range. or a straight 60 trim t3. a real 60 trim with a 60mm exducer, not 71mm.
looking at the numbers on garrets site, this is close to a 2860?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/T3-T4...Q5fAccessories
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06-14-2010, 09:12 AM
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looking at the numbers on garrets site, this is close to a 2860?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/T3-T4-TURBO-CHARGER-w-INTERNAL-WG-MAZDA-3-6-MX-5-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem35a5832929QQitemZ23041 0103081QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccesso ries
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/T3-T4-TURBO-CHARGER-w-INTERNAL-WG-MAZDA-3-6-MX-5-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem35a5832929QQitemZ23041 0103081QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccesso ries
A genuine t3 super 60 (with a 60mm compressor wheel), with a stage I turbine, in a .48 A/R housing, is as close as you can get to a 2860. The compressor wheels are acutally identical in size but the T3 has a slightly larger turbine. This is a 300-350rwhp turbo.
A 57 trim t3/t4 is a 430-450rwhp turbo.
if you could find a 40 or 46 trim t3/t4 with a stage I turbine, that could work. What size motor you running?
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06-14-2010, 10:09 AM
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A genuine t3 super 60 (with a 60mm compressor wheel), with a stage I turbine, in a .48 A/R housing, is as close as you can get to a 2860. The compressor wheels are acutally identical in size but the T3 has a slightly larger turbine. This is a 300-350rwhp turbo.
A 57 trim t3/t4 is a 430-450rwhp turbo.
if you could find a 40 or 46 trim t3/t4 with a stage I turbine, that could work. What size motor you running?
A 57 trim t3/t4 is a 430-450rwhp turbo.
if you could find a 40 or 46 trim t3/t4 with a stage I turbine, that could work. What size motor you running?
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06-14-2010, 08:51 PM
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06-14-2010, 09:48 PM
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Water cooled turbos were designed for OEM manufacturers looking for a way to reduce turbo failure from oil coking in the turbocharger. The intent is that it leaves a heat sink and the overall turbo cooler so that after a hard run and shutdown the oil doesn't break down and clog the bearing system... AS MUCH. If you run a turbo timer with a good oil it should make no difference whether its water cooled or straight oil.
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