Timing Chart - What to do?
#1
Timing Chart - What to do?
So here's my timing chart:
Never mind the non boost portion, I'm more interested in the 100kpa+ area. I've read on here that the timing should always increase, and I feel that perhaps my chart is quite conservative while in boost. I have tons of fuel still to add, so what suggestions can you give me to get some more power. I have tons of push around the 3000-4500, but then it drops off quite quickly.
Thanks
Never mind the non boost portion, I'm more interested in the 100kpa+ area. I've read on here that the timing should always increase, and I feel that perhaps my chart is quite conservative while in boost. I have tons of fuel still to add, so what suggestions can you give me to get some more power. I have tons of push around the 3000-4500, but then it drops off quite quickly.
Thanks
#3
wow...your boosted portion looks more like AFR targets than a timing table.
I forget where I placed mine and am at work...but you can definitely ramp it up with rpm, and bump everything below 165kPa up a few degrees. (*blowing up motor NOT my fault)
I'd atleast get to the DIY conservative base map...and then start using det cans.
I forget where I placed mine and am at work...but you can definitely ramp it up with rpm, and bump everything below 165kPa up a few degrees. (*blowing up motor NOT my fault)
I'd atleast get to the DIY conservative base map...and then start using det cans.
#11
I also have the problem of having a 2.25" exhaust after my 2.5" downpipe, so I need to get that fixed as well. Of course money is crazy tight, not working, full time student, daughter, wife... ughz.
#13
Tour de Franzia
iTrader: (6)
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Republic of Dallas
Posts: 29,085
Total Cats: 375
here's my new spark table, just to **** you off:
This was made with a turbine outlet leak though, so i backed it out a few degrees and listened for detonation with the det cans and its fine. gI'm going to the dyno again in a couple weeks. I expect extremely high output numbers with the free-er flowing ABSURDness.
This was made with a turbine outlet leak though, so i backed it out a few degrees and listened for detonation with the det cans and its fine. gI'm going to the dyno again in a couple weeks. I expect extremely high output numbers with the free-er flowing ABSURDness.
#14
Well up until 2 weeks ago, I worked at a shop with a dyno, and dyno runs were free, so I had a really good idea where I was sitting. But I had to leave because of school, took my car off the road, and now he's closing the shop up. So yah, wideband is coming soon. I'm thinking of trying the Prosport one since I have prosport gauges.
#15
here's my new spark table, just to **** you off:
This was made with a turbine outlet leak though, so i backed it out a few degrees and listened for detonation with the det cans and its fine. gI'm going to the dyno again in a couple weeks. I expect extremely high output numbers with the free-er flowing ABSURDness.
This was made with a turbine outlet leak though, so i backed it out a few degrees and listened for detonation with the det cans and its fine. gI'm going to the dyno again in a couple weeks. I expect extremely high output numbers with the free-er flowing ABSURDness.
#16
Tour de Franzia
iTrader: (6)
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Republic of Dallas
Posts: 29,085
Total Cats: 375
get on a dyno...that's the best advice you can get. Build det cans to make sure its safe on the street, but use them on the dyno to find max torque in each cell. I prefer mustang dynos to anything else because they're the easiest to use and read. Its pretty sick when you can load up roller and pick your load cell and see the # increase. I dropped 12kpa points at 70mph after tuning for fuel economy. Its worth every cent.
#17
Tour de Franzia
iTrader: (6)
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Republic of Dallas
Posts: 29,085
Total Cats: 375
any questions?
I was making 240wtq at 10psi at 4400rpm. I had drama though and had to cut the session off after about 15-minutes of tuning. I'll go up to 18-20 psi next time, just because I can. lol
#18
Tour de Franzia
iTrader: (6)
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Republic of Dallas
Posts: 29,085
Total Cats: 375
Well up until 2 weeks ago, I worked at a shop with a dyno, and dyno runs were free, so I had a really good idea where I was sitting. But I had to leave because of school, took my car off the road, and now he's closing the shop up. So yah, wideband is coming soon. I'm thinking of trying the Prosport one since I have prosport gauges.
Do you know what you're doing on a dyno? I ask this respectfully. Tuning should be very simple and utilitarian. I can spend no more than 1-hour and walk out with a perfectly tuned turbo car. Crap like a cast manifold, tiny little turbine housing, and small compressor won't allow as much spark advance as mine. I essentially have a compression ratio and turbine housing for a 500hp car, running it at 300 if you consider the popular mentality among e-tuners.
#19
I am very happy with my LC-1...there's a reason everyone who's someone swears by it.
Do you know what you're doing on a dyno? I ask this respectfully. Tuning should be very simple and utilitarian. I can spend no more than 1-hour and walk out with a perfectly tuned turbo car.
Do you know what you're doing on a dyno? I ask this respectfully. Tuning should be very simple and utilitarian. I can spend no more than 1-hour and walk out with a perfectly tuned turbo car.
#20
Tour de Franzia
iTrader: (6)
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Republic of Dallas
Posts: 29,085
Total Cats: 375
I never tuned it on the dyno, my boss did. But he is super conservative with his tuning, like CRAZY conservative. The chart I posted has been increased by myself on the road. He also does a ton of Hondata tuning, and carb tuning. He's not really familiar with mazda's, their limits, etc.
Tuning different makes should not alter his method...its not a black art.