Connector Witch Hunt
#61
Let's see:
This one MAF 99-00
Is a SUMITOMO SL Series Part.-Nr. 6189-0638
(So it's not the exactly like the Crank position sensor - because that is a DL series connector - but they seem to be interchangeable)
http://swsct.sws.co.jp/components/en..._s=61890638sls
So MAF = checked!
This one OEM COP
Is also the same SUMITOMO SL Series Part.-Nr. 6189-0638
(You can see that it is the SL series because of that white plastic tab on the side of the connector, see here)
http://swsct.sws.co.jp/components/en..._s=61890638sls
So OEM COP = checked!
This one VVT 01
Is a SUMITOMO SL Series Part.-Nr. 6189-0642
http://www.newunitedracetech.com/sho...01_730_735_736
But also seems to be outdated...
So VVT 01 = checked!
This one OEM Injectors
Is a SUMITOMO SL Series Part.-Nr. 6189-0651
http://www.newunitedracetech.com/sho...01_730_735_736
But also seems to be outdated...
So OEM injectors = checked!
To be continued!
This one MAF 99-00
Is a SUMITOMO SL Series Part.-Nr. 6189-0638
(So it's not the exactly like the Crank position sensor - because that is a DL series connector - but they seem to be interchangeable)
http://swsct.sws.co.jp/components/en..._s=61890638sls
So MAF = checked!
This one OEM COP
Is also the same SUMITOMO SL Series Part.-Nr. 6189-0638
(You can see that it is the SL series because of that white plastic tab on the side of the connector, see here)
http://swsct.sws.co.jp/components/en..._s=61890638sls
So OEM COP = checked!
This one VVT 01
Is a SUMITOMO SL Series Part.-Nr. 6189-0642
http://www.newunitedracetech.com/sho...01_730_735_736
But also seems to be outdated...
So VVT 01 = checked!
This one OEM Injectors
Is a SUMITOMO SL Series Part.-Nr. 6189-0651
http://www.newunitedracetech.com/sho...01_730_735_736
But also seems to be outdated...
So OEM injectors = checked!
To be continued!
Last edited by Zaphod; 01-29-2013 at 02:32 AM.
#62
I found a hint on the Gauge cluster connectors - they are also used on a variety of Ford models - I found them on ebay - here:
This is a replacement part - I didn't find anything about the OEM manufacturer.
Motorcraft WPT-278 Instrument Panel Connector | eBay
Motorcraft WPT278 Instrument panel connector male - at instrument cluster - analog plug a - black - 16 leads $54.86 | Auto Parts Tomorrow
Have a look at these prices ...
Here you can find the complete Ford connector list:
http://www.fordtechservice.dealercon...torcatalog.pdf
Our 3 connectors for the Gauge cluster are
(from the back of the gauge cluster left to right)
left connector WPT-278 (page 35)
middle connector WPT-192 (page 30)
right connector WPT-202 (page 35)
This is a replacement part - I didn't find anything about the OEM manufacturer.
Motorcraft WPT-278 Instrument Panel Connector | eBay
Motorcraft WPT278 Instrument panel connector male - at instrument cluster - analog plug a - black - 16 leads $54.86 | Auto Parts Tomorrow
Have a look at these prices ...
Here you can find the complete Ford connector list:
http://www.fordtechservice.dealercon...torcatalog.pdf
Our 3 connectors for the Gauge cluster are
(from the back of the gauge cluster left to right)
left connector WPT-278 (page 35)
middle connector WPT-192 (page 30)
right connector WPT-202 (page 35)
Last edited by Zaphod; 01-29-2013 at 07:21 AM.
#65
I wonder how hard it is to de-pin, and, really, where one finds pins that fit it. I'm not sure that much on there is very sensitive, anyway (i.e. you could probably just splice into it without huge effect but your oil pressure looking 1% low), but it would make things much, much better.
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Speaking of - while I don't have the wiring diagram in front of me, it seems the main engine/harness connectors (there's a couple, right, like 6 pin and whatnot) are the things the PnP people want. Instead of putting a connector to mate each injector and each coil then another to go to the new coils, wouldn't you rather have a big, 6 or 12 or whatever pin connector with your engine harness on it? Totally seems the way to go. Still plug and play, but very clean!
Do we have those?
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Speaking of - while I don't have the wiring diagram in front of me, it seems the main engine/harness connectors (there's a couple, right, like 6 pin and whatnot) are the things the PnP people want. Instead of putting a connector to mate each injector and each coil then another to go to the new coils, wouldn't you rather have a big, 6 or 12 or whatever pin connector with your engine harness on it? Totally seems the way to go. Still plug and play, but very clean!
Do we have those?
Do we have those?
#68
Hers the post:
https://www.miataturbo.net/diy-turbo...36/#post170441
As I have a 99-00 BUT 1,6 B6 Euro modell which didn't make it to the US it's different from the 99-00 BP 1,9.
The 1,6 99-00 have a common connector that sits on back of the left engine side and is about 35cm long. It has a 6-pin Sumitomo connector on one end and 2 3-pin sumitomo connectors on the other end at the coils.
(left upper side of the picture, right connector)
Looks like this inside This image has been resized. Click this bar to view the full image. The original image is sized 799x600.
You can pull the orange part out with the help of a screwdriver, has two notches on top which hold it in place
At the underside of the old pins inside you have also little notches, same system as the new coil-connectors use.
Push them down and you can pull the old cables out. This image has been resized. Click this bar to view the full image. The original image is sized 799x600.
Now you can use the Braineack pins on the new harness and just push them in. Works!
Then you simly push the orange part on again!
Now you got a plug and play harness.
This connector is a SUMITOMO DL sealed series Part.-Nr. 6195-0021
I don't know if any of the other or older models got a similar connector.
The 99-00 BP has got the "common connector" called X-15
(see wiring schematics) http://www.madracki.com/miata/images...g/2000wire.pdf
at the front of the engine, that seems to hold the +12V and trigger signal for the coils, but not the grounds...
Last edited by Zaphod; 01-30-2013 at 05:48 AM.
#69
I did find a part.-nr. for the instrument cluster connector terminals - but I have no chance to find a part.-nr. for the housings...
Part.Nr. Terminals: D5AB-14474-FA
Terminal Supply Company - Product Detail : TERMINALS & CONNECTORS -> TERMINALS -> TERMINALS - FORD -> D5AB-14474-FA
Part.Nr. Terminals: D5AB-14474-FA
Terminal Supply Company - Product Detail : TERMINALS & CONNECTORS -> TERMINALS -> TERMINALS - FORD -> D5AB-14474-FA
#71
The 99-00 BP has got the "common connector" called X-15
(see wiring schematics) http://www.madracki.com/miata/images...g/2000wire.pdf
at the front of the engine, that seems to hold the +12V and trigger signal for the coils, but not the grounds...
(see wiring schematics) http://www.madracki.com/miata/images...g/2000wire.pdf
at the front of the engine, that seems to hold the +12V and trigger signal for the coils, but not the grounds...
I did find a part.-nr. for the instrument cluster connector terminals - but I have no chance to find a part.-nr. for the housings...
Part.Nr. Terminals: D5AB-14474-FA
Terminal Supply Company - Product Detail : TERMINALS & CONNECTORS -> TERMINALS -> TERMINALS - FORD -> D5AB-14474-FA
Part.Nr. Terminals: D5AB-14474-FA
Terminal Supply Company - Product Detail : TERMINALS & CONNECTORS -> TERMINALS -> TERMINALS - FORD -> D5AB-14474-FA
Perhaps I should make separate section for pins. We could certainly add a collum for it, then down below list them.
#73
@Abe - you can un-pin most connectors quite easily with such a un-pin tool
Tools
Those connectors are made to be un-pinned and re-pinned. With a little experience its easy.
Here is a Youtube "How-to" - the connector is not exactly like ours but you get the idea.
"Braineack-Pin" is out of the COP-Thread, I think Brain suggested a terminal for the COP connectors to use (which wasn't quite the correct one - but did work.)
Tools
Those connectors are made to be un-pinned and re-pinned. With a little experience its easy.
Here is a Youtube "How-to" - the connector is not exactly like ours but you get the idea.
"Braineack-Pin" is out of the COP-Thread, I think Brain suggested a terminal for the COP connectors to use (which wasn't quite the correct one - but did work.)
#77
Sorry everyone! I had some travel and haven't been paying attention. Want to help figure this out now.
"Today".
I agree, if we can do this, that would rock. I'm thinking that's the way to go - at least my connectors, none of the bodies are worn out. The rest of this thread is for everyone else's* benefit.
Leafy! Sorry to hear that. Can you get a pic - good ones - of yours next to some originals, or the sensors, or anything? I want to figure out if we're close like a line number, or if we have totally the wrong manufacturer, etc.
I wonder if Mazdacomp would be any help?
*I do worry about breaking the connectors - sometimes they can be pretty brittle. My idea is just to try, replace what I break - but I'd like to know what will/had break so I only have to order once.
I wonder if Mazdacomp would be any help?
*I do worry about breaking the connectors - sometimes they can be pretty brittle. My idea is just to try, replace what I break - but I'd like to know what will/had break so I only have to order once.
#78
in post nr. 35 I identified the IAC connector as
AMP SSC (Sealed Sensor Connector) System connector
Part.-Nr. 184000-1
The AMP connector from Eastern Beaver is a Econoseal series connector.
and in post nr. 52 I assumed that the VICS connector is a
SUMITOMO 62 sealed series connector
Sumitomo 62 sealed series 090(2.3mm) 2 Position Female Housing [Gray] [6098-0135] : New United Race Tech, New United Race Tech
Though I mus say that I am not sure about the that one...
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That 62 series looks closer to the VICS, what I believe is preventing that one from going on is the two keys to either side of the lock. I think if I modified the connector I could make it fit. But now I've got to try to find places to buy those connectors, which wont be as easy.
#80
Leafy:
Have you thought about - once we know for sure which connector is which - picking up replacement pins and getting a junkyard/used connector? Lots of people have old harnesses around, and many people "take off" VICS, so there should be plenty of connectors around.
2-Way Receptacle Kit
Is that the one? If so, add it to spread sheet and order it. :-)
Have you thought about - once we know for sure which connector is which - picking up replacement pins and getting a junkyard/used connector? Lots of people have old harnesses around, and many people "take off" VICS, so there should be plenty of connectors around.
2-Way Receptacle Kit
Is that the one? If so, add it to spread sheet and order it. :-)