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Old 12-10-2008, 02:59 PM
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How strong will it be when you cut it? Is that over kill?
Now it is time to go to begi's site and see the scooper. I really like the looks of the lip. But not on my yellow car with the spoiler and rims it has. I guess, I need to make something out of sheet metal.

My brother is going with TDR's lip this income tax season.
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the lip has enough bolls to keep it sturdy if cut...

if the splitter is attached to the scooper, **** will be solid.
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Old 12-10-2008, 03:08 PM
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Oh-yea, I think I'm going to get a breadpan, cut it out and brace it up. I'll attach the side of the pan that I cut out, to the top to pull and guide the air. Basically mimic this.......

I probably paint it semi black. I don't really want it noticeable.
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Old 12-10-2008, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Braineack
the lip has enough bolls to keep it sturdy if cut...

if the splitter is attached to the scooper, **** will be solid.
That sounds like that would work well. If you do it cut small bits at a time. Take twice as long. LOL That way it will look perfect. I learned that from watching my friends cut what they think is right, and have gapping holes. LOL

Kinda like your strippers. But not a cute.
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Yep, it is always easier to take away than put back.
Hustler and I have been talking this over for a long time now. I don't have the need for a scooper (just yet), but Brain's quick edit shows that it would be fine and sturdy as well.
Anyone who has seen my car, knows I am not afraid of nibblers or hole saws.
My R-lip was cracked when purchased, but also came with a TDR splitter. My decision has been made, and I will be cutting yet again!
Hustler, may the cheez whizzin' commence.....
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I doubt the effectiveness of a splitter that can bend so easily.
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Still better than nothing at all.
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Originally Posted by Machismo
Still better than nothing at all.


Maybe, but it seems like a waste of money.


If you're going through the effort you'd be better off using a much more rigid splitter that goes farther back and is supported alot better. All of the real and effective splitters I've seen are strong enough for you to be able to stand on them.
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Originally Posted by BenR
I doubt the effectiveness of a splitter that can bend so easily.
a 3/16" ABS sheet bolted in evenly in like 8 different places?
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Originally Posted by BenR
Maybe, but it seems like a waste of money.


If you're going through the effort you'd be better off using a much more rigid splitter that goes farther back and is supported alot better. All of the real and effective splitters I've seen are strong enough for you to be able to stand on them.
That is true and not debatable. My car is a dedicated "track rat" and will see a "proper" splitter when the need is present. A bird fart slows my car down right now, so the "free" splitter I have now is just fine.
That is like comparing a roll bar to a roll cage.....
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Originally Posted by Machismo
That is like comparing a roll bar to a roll cage.....


It's more like comparing a rollbar to a style bar.
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Originally Posted by Braineack
a 3/16" ABS sheet bolted in evenly in like 8 different places?


Can it support your weight? How far back does it extend?

Just my opinion, take it for what you will.
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Originally Posted by BenR
It's more like comparing a rollbar to a style bar.
Touche...that it is.
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Originally Posted by BenR
Can it support your weight? How far back does it extend?

Just my opinion, take it for what you will.
I am in agreement with you here....
Most of these TDR splitters are for daily driven cars and serve more for aesthetics than "true" performance. But they do work somewhat.....
If and when I go the "all out splitter build"...it will be in the same manner as Matt Andrews and his little beast of a car.
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Originally Posted by Machismo
If and when I go the "all out splitter build"...it will be in the same manner as Matt Andrews and his little beast of a car.





There are some really good threads on corner-carvers about DIY splitters.
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Originally Posted by BenR
Can it support your weight?
I can understand how rigidity would be important, but why would it need to be strong enough to support a person's weight (~200#) for a splitter to be meaningful? Do you have a rough idea of the forces a splitter would experience on our cars at track speeds? And where are those forces being applied, primarily? I'm interested to know...
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Originally Posted by BenR
Can it support your weight?

Could the factory nose support my 300lbs Sumo weight? I doubt it.
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Originally Posted by chucker
I can understand how rigidity would be important, but why would it need to be strong enough to support a person's weight (~200#) for a splitter to be meaningful? Do you have a rough idea of the forces a splitter would experience on our cars at track speeds? And where are those forces being applied, primarily? I'm interested to know...
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It's gotta live in a very harsh environment without deforming or being damaged. It wouldn't be outside reality to generate your own body weight in down force over 100mph with a real functional splitter.

How embarrassing would it be to have the damned thing fall off the first time you hit a rumble strip at speed?
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Mine will be sheet metal and bolted to something rigid. It will **** on your chest.
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Originally Posted by BenR



There are some really good threads on corner-carvers about DIY splitters.
can a nagger get a link?
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