miataturbo.net-like debauchery thread (about the ND or something)
07-22-2014, 12:31 PM
#121
Is it sad my favorite things on the ND chassis is the oil filter location and the oil pan not requiring the engine be removed to take it off and tap it? Im also in love with the suspension linkage and the motor mounts not being angled anymore so the the engine rest evenly on top
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07-29-2014, 02:10 PM
#126
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New Miata ND with the following assumptions: 165hp, 155ft-lbs, 2350lbs, 35+ mpg.
Why? Car has a warranty, getting 0% financing through Mazda is easy, and the Mazda2 I've been DDing is way too practical (and not RWD). I want another Miata that I can DD and do autocross in that has modern safety and amenities. Also, I want to see what it's like to have a convertible despite owning a Miata for the past 7+ years (yay hardtops).
The S2000 is obviously appealing and I think it's a great car, but I think that the speed necessary to have fun with it is too high for the street. I'm an old person. I'd rather throw a slow, soft Miata through a corner at 45mph versus getting the same satisfaction out of doing it with an S2000 at 70mph. Safety first.
Why? Car has a warranty, getting 0% financing through Mazda is easy, and the Mazda2 I've been DDing is way too practical (and not RWD). I want another Miata that I can DD and do autocross in that has modern safety and amenities. Also, I want to see what it's like to have a convertible despite owning a Miata for the past 7+ years (yay hardtops).
The S2000 is obviously appealing and I think it's a great car, but I think that the speed necessary to have fun with it is too high for the street. I'm an old person. I'd rather throw a slow, soft Miata through a corner at 45mph versus getting the same satisfaction out of doing it with an S2000 at 70mph. Safety first.
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07-29-2014, 02:16 PM
#127
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The only Porsche I'm interested in is the new Cayman S. And I don't make the kind of scratch to justify a $70k car in my garage or it would already be there.
New Miata ND with the following assumptions: 165hp, 155ft-lbs, 2350lbs, 35+ mpg.
Why? Car has a warranty, getting 0% financing through Mazda is easy, and the Mazda2 I've been DDing is way too practical (and not RWD). I want another Miata that I can DD and do autocross in that has modern safety and amenities. Also, I want to see what it's like to have a convertible despite owning a Miata for the past 7+ years (yay hardtops).
The S2000 is obviously appealing and I think it's a great car, but I think that the speed necessary to have fun with it is too high for the street. I'm an old person. I'd rather throw a slow, soft Miata through a corner at 45mph versus getting the same satisfaction out of doing it with an S2000 at 70mph. Safety first.
Why? Car has a warranty, getting 0% financing through Mazda is easy, and the Mazda2 I've been DDing is way too practical (and not RWD). I want another Miata that I can DD and do autocross in that has modern safety and amenities. Also, I want to see what it's like to have a convertible despite owning a Miata for the past 7+ years (yay hardtops).
The S2000 is obviously appealing and I think it's a great car, but I think that the speed necessary to have fun with it is too high for the street. I'm an old person. I'd rather throw a slow, soft Miata through a corner at 45mph versus getting the same satisfaction out of doing it with an S2000 at 70mph. Safety first.
That said, I'm kind of yearning for a boost buggy, but the same problems apply.
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07-29-2014, 02:55 PM
#128
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I think a good engine for the future Miata would be the Skyactive engine in the Mazda 3, 185 hp and 184 ft-lbs of torque at the crankshaft. It's ECU, intake and exhaust systems could even be optimized to increase power to 200 horses or more.
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07-31-2014, 06:04 PM
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Carry on.
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08-01-2014, 12:59 PM
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Just throwing out some numbers... assumptions:
Price: $26000
Rebate: $1000
APR: 2.99%
Term: 5 years
If you take the $1000 rebate, after 5 years you wind up paying $26950 for the car and monthly payments will be around $450.
If you take 0% APR for 5 years, you pay $26000 for the car, and your monthly payment is $15 cheaper at $435.
The break-even for rebate vs 0% APR is closer to $2000, and I don't think I've seen Mazda do that. It's going to be a new car, so who knows if dealerships are going to tag on a premium like they did with the Toyobaru. Best bet might actually be to print off an S-Plan coupon from Mazdaspeed and get 0% through the Mazda's financing.
Price: $26000
Rebate: $1000
APR: 2.99%
Term: 5 years
If you take the $1000 rebate, after 5 years you wind up paying $26950 for the car and monthly payments will be around $450.
If you take 0% APR for 5 years, you pay $26000 for the car, and your monthly payment is $15 cheaper at $435.
The break-even for rebate vs 0% APR is closer to $2000, and I don't think I've seen Mazda do that. It's going to be a new car, so who knows if dealerships are going to tag on a premium like they did with the Toyobaru. Best bet might actually be to print off an S-Plan coupon from Mazdaspeed and get 0% through the Mazda's financing.
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08-01-2014, 02:41 PM
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Dunning Kruger affects post regarding interest...
^truth. However, I never keep my cars that long, so for me, I'd take the money and run since I know I won't just make the minimum payment for the term of the loan
^truth. However, I never keep my cars that long, so for me, I'd take the money and run since I know I won't just make the minimum payment for the term of the loan
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08-01-2014, 02:46 PM
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Inflation helps the borrower in a repayment on a loan...? I don't think you know how inflation works, unless if it was a "rah-rah, put cash under your mattress Ron Paul 2008" post.
A car loan is a fixed rate financial instrument and 0% APR is quite literally free money (as long as you don't default).
A car loan is a fixed rate financial instrument and 0% APR is quite literally free money (as long as you don't default).
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