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Old 04-27-2010, 03:01 PM
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So, how about someone straightens out Falcon's feedback now?
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Old 04-27-2010, 03:58 PM
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Old 04-27-2010, 04:34 PM
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Is that the "serial link" that TurboRoach built? If so- I'm sure he'd want to know if it didn't work so he could fix it.
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Old 04-27-2010, 04:36 PM
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I told everyone. I'm not someone who goes out and scams people. As we can now see, the ECU was fully operational and I was in the right. Perhaps the adpater DID break in shipping. That's too bad... it worked when I had it. Yes, it was the one TurboRoach built.
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Old 04-28-2010, 03:22 AM
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one of the solder points was broke it must have got cought on some thing in the shipping process. I had a friend that works on computers resolder it and tuned it a little with my desktop, my laptop still dont work. But it is all running awesome what a difference. Sorry again falcon that was my bad I will fix your feedback to +. If you would please do the same. thanks man
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Old 04-28-2010, 06:32 AM
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I'm actually gonna say that it's very possible this really was shipping damage. Even though well packaged, I'm seeing this more and more.

I recently sent one of Jeff's awesome det cans, a pretty sturdy piece, which the buyer received DOA. Worked perfectly fine when I had it, uninstalled, and package with some care still.

If you've ever seen these UPS guys load their truck you'd laugh. Falling from truck height would be a break for some of these packages. They actually use an extendable roller system which can be another 4-5ft above the deck height, and they look like they have a little fun pushing the packages along, and they also try to get them to presort themselves into spots in the truck by putting a little "english" on them, and pushing overly hard so they'll tumble into place instead of stacking up at the end of the rollers.

I'm sure packages fall off the sides, and I'd consider carrying insurance and using it in cases like this once all other fixes have been ruled out.
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^ This! I have heard from my local UPS Store that I use religiously that if your package is not prepared for anything short of a nuclear bomb, you need to repackage it. Kinda sucks, but I have never had a problem.
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Old 04-28-2010, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by thagr81 us
^ This! I have heard from my local UPS Store that I use religiously that if your package is not prepared for anything short of a nuclear bomb, you need to repackage it. Kinda sucks, but I have never had a problem.
As my coworker is in charge of shipping at my company and we ship almost exclusively UPS we make sure we throw all boxes against the wall before they go out. This way we know ahead of time if it is not packed well. The abuse that UPS does to boxes makes being the unloved red headed step child seem like heaven.
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Old 04-28-2010, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by gospeed81
I'm actually gonna say that it's very possible this really was shipping damage. Even though well packaged, I'm seeing this more and more.
Yeah I pack crazy over the top because of stories I have heard from people worked from UPS. When I sold a set of motorcycle forks I built a box to ship them instead of just wrapping them in cardboard.

More padding went in there before screwing the box top on.


But I think that the way this was handled is very telling. First get cold feet and change your mind, then try to scam the insurance saying that is broke (with enough time to determine that is even broken???), then scam the seller through paypal saying that it isn't as described, then it's broke again. The seller here doesn't have much recourse against scamming, and paypal tends to just drop stuff if they aren't losing money. But did this go through USPS? Have him try and scam them and he will get what he deserves. The federal govt. has seemingly endless resources to go after crooks. The USPS takes stuff like that very seriously.

The seller here admits that he was over his head, so he sold it on. Sounds like the buyer came to the same conclusion, he should have had the responsibility to accept his mistake, and tried to sell it on (looked like there was more interest in this) . The seller deserved to have his feedback fixed, fixing the buyers feedback just breaks the feedback system. I do applaud the buyer for fixing the feedback, sounds like he has grown here and deserves a pat on the back.
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Old 04-28-2010, 09:59 AM
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Hehe, someone shipped me a 1.8 diff in a cardboard box filled with bubble wrap last week. I caught my UPS driver rolling the rapidly-disintegrating mass of cardboard down the loading dock. He'd made it halfway by the time I told him to leave it there and I'd take care of it.
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Old 04-28-2010, 10:12 AM
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wrap in multiple layers of bubble wrap, then put in oversized box full of peanuts.
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Old 04-28-2010, 10:15 AM
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I usually overfill all of mine with packing peanuts, then compress them down until I can just barely get the box to close. Never had a problem... Granted the majority of the things I've shipped were metal.
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Old 04-28-2010, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Braineack
wrap in multiple layers of bubble wrap, with layers of carboard at strategic points to keep part from shifting. then put in box, which is placed in another oversized box full of peanuts, compressed on all six sides.
This is the only way to ship via UPS.

And NEVER, EVER let them pack for you.

I once got a box that had a clutch and pressure plate, and a set of forged rods in it that the seller allowed the potheads at his local UPS store to pack. The box was 3 times the volume of the parts, with one small sheet of bubble wrap, one tampon sized piece of 1/8" foam, and NO packing peanuts.

I only found 3 of the rods on top, the last one was wedged between the clutch and pp.
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Old 04-28-2010, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ZZZYZZZ

But I think that the way this was handled is very telling. First get cold feet and change your mind, then try to scam the insurance saying that is broke (with enough time to determine that is even broken???), then scam the seller through paypal saying that it isn't as described, then it's broke again. The seller here doesn't have much recourse against scamming, and paypal tends to just drop stuff if they aren't losing money. But did this go through USPS? Have him try and scam them and he will get what he deserves. The federal govt. has seemingly endless resources to go after crooks. The USPS takes stuff like that very seriously.

The seller here admits that he was over his head, so he sold it on. Sounds like the buyer came to the same conclusion, he should have had the responsibility to accept his mistake, and tried to sell it on (looked like there was more interest in this) . The seller deserved to have his feedback fixed, fixing the buyers feedback just breaks the feedback system. I do applaud the buyer for fixing the feedback, sounds like he has grown here and deserves a pat on the back.
Shipped through Canada Post.

I won't be deleting the feedback I left.
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Old 04-28-2010, 12:33 PM
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You got the BUUUUURRRRRNNNNNZZZZZZZZZZ!
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Old 04-28-2010, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by falcon
I won't be deleting the feedback I left.
No reason you should, I commend you for standing up for yourself here all around.
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Old 04-28-2010, 12:40 PM
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Why should I? He left rating as neutral with the negative comments still there.

I did nothing wrong through the whole transaction. He was quick to jump the gun in calling me a scammer so he gets negative iTrader feedback.

I already reported the neutral rating to the mods with a link to this thread.

On all the other sites I frequent (rx7club.com, gtrcanada.com) I have immaculate feedback.

http://forums.gtrcanada.com/itrader.php?u=9273
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Old 04-28-2010, 03:20 PM
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You betcha, hugs all around boys and girls... and transgendered individuals!
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Old 04-28-2010, 05:58 PM
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Looks like someone hugged that cats ears off!
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Old 04-28-2010, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by gospeed81
Recently, every buyer I deal with has expected storefront type service in the way of invoices, tracking numbers, condition and return policy, even when I'm selling items at nearly half their original cost.
Psh I like to think our recent transaction went smooth! I got the parts btw, thanks
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