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Old 04-15-2013, 02:24 PM   #1
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Okay first of all, let's not turn this into a "aspartame kills you to death" thread. It seems to me that there is a correlation between diet soda consumption and overweight people. Obviously, diet soda is a zero cal drink, so in theory you could drink 2L of the stuff per day and never gain an ounce of fat (you might have some serious issues though).

The internet is flush with conflicting "evidence" on this topic. So, does your body's response to the taste cause a spike in sugar regulating chemical levels? Does this cause you to crave more carbs because your sugar levels drop too far due to the lack of glucose introduced by the diet soda?

Or is that all bullshit? Is the correlation simply that overweight people feel like they can drink lots of this stuff without feeling bad about it?

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Old 04-15-2013, 02:35 PM   #2
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I would venture to guess that it is a mental thing. They feel bad about being fat, so they drink something they think will not contribute to the fat. Makes them feel better about drinking all that soda.
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Calories all bullshit, its an improper measurement, based on an old and flawed understanding of the human metabolism.

If I were to pinpoint a source of fatness, I would say it was sugar and gluten.
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"Rabble rabble rabble."

You've read conflicting internet opinions, so you turn to a bunch of non-experts on an internet message board to gather their opinions?


I can say this with a high level of conviction: Diet soda alone does not make you fat.
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Calories all bullshit, its an improper measurement, based on an old and flawed understanding of the human metabolism.
This. You want to be fat? Eat things that your body converts to sugar and things loaded with carbs. Bread, soda, candy, certain fruits, certain veggies, any food that is labeled "diet" like healthey choice meals. Only 190 calories and 5 grams of fat! (1200 sodium, 60 carbs) Fat old women on treadmill-"I'm eating all these healthy choice meals like the t.v. says I should and I'm not getting any skinnier!!!!!"

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If I were to pinpoint a source of fatness, I would say it was sugar and gluten.
ding ding ding.

FTB gets it.

Drink water, not soda.
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Pass the salt, please.
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Supposition:

There are no studies or proven theories that can completely explain the link between the things that go in your mouth and the fat in your ***.

Corrollary:

There is no single contirbutor to the human diet that is specifically responsible for your health. Humanity does not fully understand the synergistic relationships between the foods and/or chemicals we consume. And suggesting that one or some subset of these is directly responsible for any condition is somewhat ignorant or naive.

We can draw some conclusions about patterns that form in large populations of data samples, but with so much uncontrollable variance in any dietary study, very little is conclusive.

... btw apparently sugar doesn't make you hyper either.
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Well now that you mention it, aspartame kills you to death.
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Science hasn't answered it yet. Surely a bunch of guys who like to turbo their gay cars know!
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You sound jealous Steve.
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I have been known to knock down about 48 oz over the course of one day of Coca-Cola Classic, enhanced with a molasses and grain based liquid. I have six-pack abs (if I flex and you squint and the lighting is just right), can run a 5K in under 28 minutes, and can bench/deadlift/squat more than my body weight.


Therefore, drinking a bunch of Cuba Libres is the key to physical fitness.


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So 3-4 years ago i had kidney stones.... at that time i was downing 5-6 cans of coke a day (maybe more).

So i stopped drinking coke and switched strictly to water.

2 months ago i had kidney stones again.. so **** it.
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Well all your guys anecdotal evidence has NOTHING on my anecdotal evidence!

I stopped drinking diet soda 2 years ago, and have since lost 40 lbs.

I also started working out and cooking for myself instead of eating frozen foods, which had a MUCH greater impact.
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I have six-pack abs (if I flex and you squint and the lighting is just right)...
Sweet, that means I do too.

wait...no that was last year....those are gone now.

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Well all your guys anecdotal evidence has NOTHING on my anecdotal evidence!

I stopped drinking diet soda 2 years ago, and have since lost 40 lbs.

I also started working out and cooking for myself instead of eating frozen foods, which had a MUCH greater impact.
2 years ago I started working out and gained 45 lb.
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This is not science:

I did X and X didn't make me fat/dead/grow-a-third-arm, so therefore X must be ok!

examples:
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When we were kids we didn't wear helmets on bikes so it must be safe!
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I drink 48 oz of Coke Classic and have sish-pack abs so it must be safe!
See cuz what about all those dead kids and grandmas that DID all that stuff too?

Also what if you're holding yourself back from true potential by doing that stuff? Say you gave up coke, Scrappy. You might could have SEVEN pack abs.

maybe the "good enough status quo" is responsible for global shittiness and mediocrity. What if we're all just failed supergeniuses because we drink ******* soda pops.
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What if we're all just failed supergeniuses because we drink ******* soda pops.
OK, let's settle it then. Does Joe P. drink diet soda or only rum and wine? That should be pretty definitive, don't you think?

Oh, and pass the pepper please.
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Fructose (in table sugar and HFCS), is a slow toxin.
(Though fiber in whole fruit temper its effects)

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Summary (11 minutes)

It turns directly into fat, and its metabolic byproducts promote obesity, gout and hypertension.
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This is not science:
Correlation = causation, especially with a data set of 1. After all,

A) On some Saturdays, I drink Appleton Estates with Coke in
B) I have sish-pack abs

That is a 100% correlation. You can't argue with that kind of science.


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Also what if you're holding yourself back from true potential by doing that stuff? Say you gave up coke, Scrappy. You might could have SEVEN pack abs.
The laws of symmetry in human beauty tell me that seven would be an undesireable number for my pack of abs.


That said, when I was in (literal) fighting shape, I think I did have an 8-pack and there was no squinting or special lighting required. I don't think I drank any alcohol and I was down to about 4-6 oz of Coke per day at max.



I also biked about 30 miles and did like 9 hours of HIIT per week but I can't imagine that was in any way related.




In all seriousness, I'm with Y8s in that it's awfully nuanced and complicated. I would also argue that genetics must be a pretty big factor because I would be willing to bet that if you put me and an "endomorph" on the same diet and workout routine, I'd end up in better (aesthetic) shape.
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