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Old 05-02-2013, 01:19 AM   #201
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For what it's worth I do a fairly simple three day muscle group cycle. Don't have the best diet. Sit on my *** most of the day besides when I work out. And I am fairly ripped for my body weight/height. I find that when I do go crazy and go scientific on it, there is only a minimal difference. Not enough to justify the extra work. Plus everything works differently for everyone.

I've tried so many work outs/meal plans/etc.. in the last 10 years and have only noticed slight differences between them. Obviously some are geared more towards weight loss, others towards weight gain, size vs tone, etc... but I have never done or seen a miracle workout, that was better than anything else out there.

Focus on form so you don't hurt yourself, eat generally healthy, and try and make it fun and challenge yourself so you don't get bored.
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In all seriousness, I'm with Y8s in that it's awfully nuanced and complicated. I would also argue that genetics must be a pretty big factor because I would be willing to bet that if you put me and an "endomorph" on the same diet and workout routine, I'd end up in better (aesthetic) shape.
But what about a lagomorph?
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Its simple, get your lazy *** in the gym, work out good, find a good workout, and stop complaining that i'm fat because my uncles sisters fat son has bad hair and is bad at sports.
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I didn't want to make a new thread for this.
What are your thought on this video?
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Dudes got bitch shoulders and wears too tight shirt to make up for it.

Alright i'm done watching the video.. problem with their logic is that they are missing the step where they gotta let the body repair it self. This aint a fetus that's growing using dna... there's no need for the brain to tell **** to heal. What i do agree with though is that it needs blood flow. More blood flow = faster healing therefore motion that increases blood flow = increases healing rate. Now of course curling 50 lb dumb bells with a ripped biceps is different than opening and closing your elbow to increase blood flow with no weight.

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Old 05-14-2013, 04:51 PM   #206
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Haven't watched the video above yet, but I recognize Kelly Starrett from MobilityWOD. He's a good resource for understanding musculature imbalances and proper stretching/rehab techniques, but he also gets into some questionable stuff (jaw position/mouthguard, etc.)

Still, I read his blog just for the muscle imbalance/myofascial release information. It's made a huge difference with my piriformis syndrome and head/neck tension.


EDIT: How's the new diet going, Leafy?
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Its going. I believe I've hit my sustainable weight. Or close to it. Since I dont seem to be dropping weight as drastically. I need to finish up some more grad work this week and hopefully I'll hit the gym next week. You know, this diet is surprisingly cheap, I think my monthly food bill has actually gone down 10 bucks.
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Old 05-14-2013, 05:14 PM   #208
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I've lost 10 more lbs since this thread started. Worked out maybe 5 times due to me having to nurse my elbow. Enjoying the good life of chicken, beef, cheese and broccoli.

Edit: Now I'm really enjoying the life as I'm wearing size L shirts for the first time in...who knows how long. 36 waist is not even a week away.
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Can anyone help with my golfers elbow. I've had it about 4 months now. I've tryed rest, ice, light forearm work to get rid if imbalance, chest and triceps workouts for imbalance, now heat and workouts to get more blood flow to it.

I believe I got it from 1 arm pull ups, 1 arm chin ups don't hurt. I don't know if that would help at all but thought I would include it.

Saw acupuncture twice but didn't see any difference. He felt it wasn't that bad. I then was a doctor and he just subjected I continue light forearm work. He then said to ice it, then have me a tendon strap.

When I first got it, I got a compression sleeve for work when I'm stocking. Then I started using the tendon strap until one day when after wearing it my tendon started hurting bad. It went away after a few minutes but I stopped wearing that. Now I don't wear anything.

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I really want to get over this so I can start climbing hard again.

Sorry for horrible grammar and spelling. :(
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Its going. I believe I've hit my sustainable weight. Or close to it. Since I dont seem to be dropping weight as drastically. I need to finish up some more grad work this week and hopefully I'll hit the gym next week. You know, this diet is surprisingly cheap, I think my monthly food bill has actually gone down 10 bucks.
Your weight loss should slow down. 1, maybe 2 lbs per week is about as much weight as you can safely lose over a long-term period. If you're working out, you're probably adding back some muscle mass, too.

Our grocery bill definitely went up, but our total food bill probably stayed about the same (since we weren't eating out or getting take-out nearly as often). Plus you're getting more nutrition per dollar.

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I've lost 10 more lbs since this thread started. Worked out maybe 5 times due to me having to nurse my elbow. Enjoying the good life of chicken, beef, cheese and broccoli.

Edit: Now I'm really enjoying the life as I'm wearing size L shirts for the first time in...who knows how long. 36 waist is not even a week away.
I've plateaued right around 12% body fat (according to my scale). My new goal is single digits (but no further, 9% will do), then see how hard it is to maintain that over a period of time.
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Its going. I believe I've hit my sustainable weight. Or close to it. Since I dont seem to be dropping weight as drastically. I need to finish up some more grad work this week and hopefully I'll hit the gym next week. You know, this diet is surprisingly cheap, I think my monthly food bill has actually gone down 10 bucks.
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I've lost 10 more lbs since this thread started. Worked out maybe 5 times due to me having to nurse my elbow. Enjoying the good life of chicken, beef, cheese and broccoli.

Edit: Now I'm really enjoying the life as I'm wearing size L shirts for the first time in...who knows how long. 36 waist is not even a week away.
Congrats!

I have lost 12 lbs and have yet to start hitting the gym. I should be working out again soon I've just been lazy and summer semester just started. I am pretty sure my grocery bill shrank as well.
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Old 05-14-2013, 05:51 PM   #212
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Can anyone help with my golfers elbow. I've had it about 4 months now. I've tryed rest, ice, light forearm work to get rid if imbalance, chest and triceps workouts for imbalance, now heat and workouts to get more blood flow to it.

I believe I got it from 1 arm pull ups, 1 arm chin ups don't hurt. I don't know if that would help at all but thought I would include it.

Saw acupuncture twice but didn't see any difference. He felt it wasn't that bad. I then was a doctor and he just subjected I continue light forearm work. He then said to ice it, then have me a tendon strap.

When I first got it, I got a compression sleeve for work when I'm stocking. Then I started using the tendon strap until one day when after wearing it my tendon started hurting bad. It went away after a few minutes but I stopped wearing that. Now I don't wear anything.

Supplements are all from Controlled Labs

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I really want to get over this so I can start climbing hard again.

Sorry for horrible grammar and spelling. :(
I had that once in elementary school (dont try to jump for the 5th monkey bar from the end on the "tall" monkey bars when you're 12) Ruined half a baseball season but it recovered just resting it and wearing a tendon strap. I would expect it to take longer when you're older than 12.
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When did you wear the strap? How tight?
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Where you feel you need it, and well, tight enough that it doesnt hurt any more. That was over a decade ago. Mine seemed to work right on the fat part of the fore arm, like an inch below the elbow.

Whats funny is in my other elbow for like the last 4 years I've had a tendon that I can feel slip out of the groove and slap back in when I do the downward motion of hammer curls or and part of reverse curls. Doesn't hurt just feels really uncomfortable so, I just dont do reverse curls and I twist to normal curls for the down part of hammer curls.
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This elbow thing is new to me. I've never had this injury before. I noticed it when my left side wasn't pushing up dumbells as fast as my right side, then after an hour in the gym the left wouldn't go up at all.

I've had no "pain" just soreness and some distress. It doesn't hurt to lift or use my arm. But it's annoying as **** and I'm trying everything I can to get it to go away so I can lift like a ******* animal again.

I bought a few different braces from Amazon. Traditional tennis elbow brace, compression sleeve and now an adjustable sleeve. Compression sleeve seems to be the best.
Compression sleeve. Compression sleeve.
Adjustable. Adjustable.

I've also started icing after lifting, taking fish oil and
Animal Flex. Animal Flex.
This really, really helps.

If anyone has any more ideas, please let me know.
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For tendon and ligament injuries, look into prolotherapy.
It enabled me to avoid surgery for a torn meniscus, but it hurt like a ************. As in 3 Vicodins just barely made it bearable the 2nd time around.
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Since we're all talking about progress i'm up to 275lb on the bench on a normal set. Was at 315 for a set before my cut cycle so i'm slowly climbing up to it again.
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Where do you guys get greek yogurt? Chobani is easy to find, no added sugar, and yummy, but non-fat or low fat. Trader Joes has only 1 full fat greek yogurt in limited flavor, the strawberry vanilla tastes like ice cream, but it has a ton of added sugar.
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Where do you guys get greek yogurt? Chobani is easy to find, no added sugar, and yummy, but non-fat or low fat. Trader Joes has only 1 full fat greek yogurt in limited flavor, the strawberry vanilla tastes like ice cream, but it has a ton of added sugar.
I am having the same problem. I can only find the normal flavor with full fat and no added sugar. The problem with that is I hate the taste and if I add honey to it I still don't like it all that much. Any suggestions on a different way to prepare it would be good too.
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Watch out for greek yogurt that's made with starch thickeners and not made in the true style.

High-Tech Shortcut To Greek Yogurt Leaves Purists Fuming : The Salt : NPR
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