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Old 07-27-2010, 06:29 PM   #1641
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Did he or the current owner ruin it?
He used to have "IT'S DA BRICK BREAKER, DICK TAKER" in vinyl on the rear. Same wheels thoughh, I'm pretty sure.
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Old 07-27-2010, 07:02 PM   #1642
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Turns out that the Dept. of Homeland Security has a 21 page booklet on how to tell the difference between a bolt and a screw:

http://www.cbp.gov/linkhandler/cgov/...ctt/icp013.pdf

Seriously, you just can't make this **** up.
Wow... I had no idea... Your tax dollars at work. Nice find Joe. Well at least they referred to an existing commercial standard rather than creating a new one from scratch; this is of course the ongoing trend with Government specifications in general, at least with MIL-STDs.

"The standard is full of industry jargon, so to make it easier to use, we have combined it here with illustrations and glossary terms..."
Translation: Since many Government personnel lack the education or aptitude to read and understand technical documentation...

And, as usual, it is something silly that is based from a law suit.
"In Rocknel Fastener, Inc. v. United States, Slip Op. 00-112 (Ct. Int’l Trade, decided August 29, 2000), the court sanctioned ANSI/ASME Standard B18.2.1 as “provid[ing] a well-recognized, comprehensive basis for the common and commercial meaning of bolt and screw as understood by the fastener industry in the United States.”

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"Nix v. Hedden, 149 U.S. 304 (1893)[1], was a case in which the United States Supreme Court addressed whether a tomato was classified as a fruit or a vegetable and decided it was a vegetable. The Tariff Act of March 3, 1883 required a tax to be paid on imported vegetables, but not fruit. The case was filed as an action by John Nix, John W. Nix, George W. Nix, and Frank W. Nix against Edward L. Hedden, Collector of the Port of New York, to recover back duties paid under protest. Botanically, a tomato is a fruit. The court, however, unanimously ruled in favor of the defendant, that the Tariff Act used the ordinary meaning of the words "fruit" and "vegetable" – where a tomato is classified as a vegetable – not the technical botanical meaning."
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Old 07-27-2010, 07:29 PM   #1643
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Ok, I honestly had no idea that the Supreme Court had ruled on the whole Fruit v. Vegetable issue. I mean, I understand that they were ruling on a tax levy, but it's still damn funny.
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A bolt has a head which is designed to be turned with a wrench, pliers, or other apparatus which grips the head from the outside edge.
Wrong. You use the head of a bolt to hold it while you torque the nut. Using this definition, carriage bolts are, indeed, bolts. Screws are the opposite, you torque via the head.*

I've seen people working on cars/machinery, that try to loosen a bolt by the head. This often results in spinning it instead of removal.




*I know this only because it was a question posed to me many decades ago by a crusty old mechanic. Wrong answers earned you scorn and ridicule. A correct answer earned you further esoteric questions in the same vein, until you got one wrong. He was grating, abusive and stubborn as a concrete pier. But he was the best damn mechanic I ever saw, and could fix just about anything.
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socket head shoulder screw

5 times fast...
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Wrong. You use the head of a bolt to hold it while you torque the nut. Using this definition, carriage bolts are, indeed, bolts. Screws are the opposite, you torque via the head.*

I've seen people working on cars/machinery, that try to loosen a bolt by the head. This often results in spinning it instead of removal.




*I know this only because it was a question posed to me many decades ago by a crusty old mechanic. Wrong answers earned you scorn and ridicule. A correct answer earned you further esoteric questions in the same vein, until you got one wrong. He was grating, abusive and stubborn as a concrete pier. But he was the best damn mechanic I ever saw, and could fix just about anything.
Not sure I agree with that thar definition. What about a large 'bolt' such as a 5/8"-18 that mates with a tapped hole? That is torqued via the head and I would not call that a screw...

Why am I even arguing about this
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Why am I even arguing about this
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Not sure I agree with that thar definition. What about a large 'bolt' such as a 5/8"-18 that mates with a tapped hole? That is torqued via the head and I would not call that a screw...

Why am I even arguing about this
Technically, it is a hex head screw. But calling it a bolt is acceptable if it's 1/2" or over via common convention. You really want to get confusing, start reading mil-spec. That stuff is a nightmare.

Who's arguing? We're discussing. Ya got something better to do?
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Let's go Mr. Packet, I don't have alll day.
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I need oil seals for my injectors. Anyone's got some??
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This just gets better. I called Clutch Masters and they told me that a new friction disc is $285! Don't they realize I can get a whole new clutch set up for the same price if not a few dollars more. They are insane.

Well, they just lost a customer, not to mention the fact that I ran right back to MT.net to tell the masses how shitty Clutch Bastards really is.

Hmmm, I wonder if it is possible to use a different manufacturers disc with it. If not, that piece of **** is going right in the garbage. **** Clutch Bastards.

EDIT: ^^^^ This is a stupid idea, forget I said it!

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I need oil seals for my injectors. Anyone's got some??
Advanced Auto or Parts Train. Do not skip out, you will not like leaks...or would you
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I need a hard top
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Those stores dont have them
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Those stores dont have them

that's because there's no such thing as an injector OIL seal.
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Understood. I change the search to insulator/lower seal, and nothing came up. In rockauto all they have is O-rings.
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that's because there's no such thing as an injector OIL seal.
There is in Cuba!

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Understood. I change the search to insulator/lower seal, and nothing came up. In rockauto all they have is O-rings.
Keep looking, they got them. I've seen them.
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Duh!!
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Duh!!
Seal kit ?
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