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Old 06-22-2013, 03:40 PM   #17221
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Yea but you can't mix tap water. It needs to be distilled! Which is probably a few dollars...

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Bullshit you can't mix with tap water. I guess maybe some parts of the country/world that is the case, depending on water composition. I've used tap water with coolant in every car I've ever had and have never had any negative effects from it. No significant corrosion that I can see. Plus, isn't the coolant supposed to inhibit that anyway? So why would it matter?
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Fallacy of composition bro. Just becaues it works for one doesn't mean it works for all. You are "supposed" to use distilled. You can use orange juice for all I care.
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Bullshit you can't mix with tap water. I guess maybe some parts of the country/world that is the case, depending on water composition. I've used tap water with coolant in every car I've ever had and have never had any negative effects from it. No significant corrosion that I can see. Plus, isn't the coolant supposed to inhibit that anyway? So why would it matter?
Tap water contains minerals for taste. Distilled water does not. Mineral deposits in your coolant system are not a desirable thing.
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Bullshit you can't mix with tap water. I guess maybe some parts of the country/world that is the case, depending on water composition. I've used tap water with coolant in every car I've ever had and have never had any negative effects from it. No significant corrosion that I can see. Plus, isn't the coolant supposed to inhibit that anyway? So why would it matter?
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Tap water contains minerals for taste. Distilled water does not. Mineral deposits in your coolant system are not a desirable thing.

My father bought coolant, straight. Mixed it with tap water, thus ruining it. "I'm not paying for water", is an asinine statement. He bought straight coolant, ruined it, thus he has zero useable coolant, thus, he paid, and received nothing.


Sav hits the nail on the head. You could probably take a **** on the water-pump, install it, and be fine. It doesn't mean a ****-stained water pump is desirable.
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Don't you pay for your tap water? Just sayin'.
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My father bought coolant, straight. Mixed it with tap water, thus ruining it. "I'm not paying for water", is an asinine statement. He bought straight coolant, ruined it, thus he has zero useable coolant, thus, he paid, and received nothing.


Sav hits the nail on the head. You could probably take a **** on the water-pump, install it, and be fine. It doesn't mean a ****-stained water pump is desirable.
That is a retarded statement. So just because it's tap water, it's ruined and he might as well use nothing? I'm fully aware that tap water contains minerals, and distilled does not. Again, I say that I have never had any issues with running tap water. No noticeable build up or corrosion. I'm pretty sure the coolant itself would totally or greatly inhibit build up of deposits. Or it must, because my radiator and water pumps have always looked totally fine. And yet AGAIN, I say probably not the case in all situations as municipal water sources greatly vary from place to place in composition. Even with the hardest of water, I can't imagine any really major build up over the life of most vehicles to where it would be any kind of issue, or noticeable aside from inspecting the inside of the radiator core.

But I know, I'm a retard, my car should blow up because I used some water with a few ppm of dissolved solids. Sweet Jesus. The sky is falling. And it's also not like I have a garden hose hooked to the radiator with a fresh supply of water circulating through the system. Once it's full, the amount of minerals in the water might be enough to coat the inside of the cooling system with an invisibly thin layer of calcium... then that's it. Whoopy!

And are you guys really comparing tap water in a coolant system to shitting on a water pump, or running orange juice? You guys know how to blow **** out of proportion, don't you?
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The NE Corridor and the Coast line both stop at EWR. But as to where exactly in NY Penn station to pick up that train...well I don't know how to answer that one specifically. I go down what seems like 1 level from the street and there you are, with the big board listing trains/times/tracks in the middle. Normally the NE Corridor trans are on the far end tracks, opposite the bathrooms and the bar.

If I arrive inside Penn Station via some random subway, then I follow the arrows pointing to NJ transit.
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As it turns out, there's a large bank of escalators directly behind the LIRR "Big Board" at which I have stood on numerous occasions, and a sign above them clearly reads, in large letters, "NJ TRANS".

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Don't you pay for your tap water? Just sayin'.
Living in a town house in AZ, no you don't pay for tap water.
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And are you guys really comparing tap water in a coolant system to shitting on a water pump, or running orange juice? You guys know how to blow **** out of proportion, don't you?
Not comparing at all. I meant you can do whatever you like. If it works for you great. The fact remains that you should, for best results, use distilled water.

If people want to risk it for a few bucks I personally don't care. I'll admit in a pinch I've used tap water before. My point was do what you want
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Discussion about the merits and cost of tap water vs. distilled water ends now.

All tap water contains dissolved minerals which, given time, will percolate out of mixed coolant and bond with the metal of the engine. This is where the flaky **** that you sometimes find floating in the top of the radiator comes from.

Distilled water is mostly free of dissolved solids, and so it cannot contribute to the funkification of the cooling system in this regard.

Whether it's worth spending $1.30 once every 3-4 years to forestall the possibility of such contamination of your cooling system is a decision that each car owner will make for themselves.


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Reddit is slow tonight. This at least gave me a chuckle.
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Discussion about the merits and cost of tap water vs. distilled water ends now.

All tap water contains dissolved minerals which, given time, will percolate out of mixed coolant and bond with the metal of the engine. This is where the flaky **** that you sometimes find floating in the top of the radiator comes from.

Distilled water is mostly free of dissolved solids, and so it cannot contribute to the funkification of the cooling system in this regard.

Whether it's worth spending $1.30 once every 3-4 years to forestall the possibility of such contamination of your cooling system is a decision that each car owner will make for themselves.


End of debate.

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It's something that's probably not all that important in regards to a standard street Miata, especially if coolant is flushed on somewhat of a regular basis. However using distilled water in other applications is highly critical, as the coolant is circulated through a variety of other coolers in addition to the radiator such as engine oil, transmission oil, and EGR coolers. I went so far as adding an external coolant filter on my truck to attempt to eliminate solid contaminants in the coolant as to hopefully extend the lives of the various coolers.

A coolant filter frankly is not the worst idea on a track car that runs 100% water (some sanctioning bodies prohibit the use of coolant) to help trap rust flakes.
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In the vicinity of a FWD car?

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I think brain has a problem if he is calling a FWD area "man zone"
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Quick question:

One of my COP coils died.
I have a couple coils (different part number) laying around.
I installed one of those good coils, and the car idles well. Did a short test drive, all is good.

Would it be OK to drive the car with mismatched coils till a new set arrives in about a week or so?
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Old 06-23-2013, 07:34 PM   #17238
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man zone:
REAL MAN zone:




that jazz on the lower left is a mediocrely-framed wall.
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FWD is code for illiterate? I'd buy that based on experience.
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I dunno, I'd say that attempting (successfully I might add) a FWD clutch swap in my garage is pretty manly. The car itself is my wife's DD; that was the issue at hand.


I had planned to do it over the July 4th long weekend extravaganza, but I had to shorten the clutch pedal rod in so far that the clutch was disengaging just off the floor (worse than an ACT) and it was starting to grind gears. I was afraid it wasn't going to last another week. I was actually expecting the clutch disc to be much worse, but it still had some material left.



It wasn't long until I was going to be into those rivets, you can see how much more material is on the new disc.
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