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Old 08-20-2014, 03:58 AM   #22181
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...I tend to give away more beer than I drink.
As a fellow brewer, I will gladly PM you my address to try your beer.
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Old 08-20-2014, 08:39 AM   #22182
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As a fellow brewer, I will gladly PM you my address to try your beer.
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Old 08-20-2014, 10:34 AM   #22183
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Shorts and bare feet on a motorcycle?

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I really like my Better Bottle since I haven't used it as a primary. I am using a 6.5 gallon bucket for the primary, 6 gallon Better Bottle for the secondary, and transfer it back to a 6.5 gallon bucket for priming and bottling. It makes cleaning much much easier.
Ah, I see.

I was debating getting one a while back, largely because of this:



Seems as though being able to bottle directly out of the secondary without having to re-rack into a bottling bucket would be nice, both in terms of saving time / labor and also from a sanitation standpoint (fewer opportunities for exposure to undesired bacteria.)

I guess if you're batch-priming then it's really kind of a moot point.
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Old 08-20-2014, 12:21 PM   #22185
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I don't always bottle, but when I do, I bottle directly from secondary.

AutoSiphon + bottling wand/bottle filler w/spring valve + Coopers carbonation drops. People seem to **** their pants about the carbonation drops, but I get perfect carbonation every time. I just figure its user error

This started at 1.100+ (I'd have to check my notes)

Damn mead, you crazy.

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As a fellow brewer, I will gladly PM you my address to try your beer.
I'm down, but I have nothing to trade at the moment. One of us should get less lazy and start a homebrewing thread, and then organize an exchange every 2~3 months or so.
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Apparently this is a steering wheel from an F1 car
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This is my primary fermenter.



Carboys cost too much to do my primary fermenting in them. It's not that they damage the fermenter in some way, but since I only have like 5x 5-gallon glass carboys, I'd rather pay $6 for 2x primary fermenters to start a 6th batch instead of buying a 6-gal carboy to run it in.
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Old 08-20-2014, 08:14 PM   #22189
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Jesus, how much and what types of booze are you making? I can understand the desire for a long secondary in glass for something like wine or mead. I guess I'm spoiled by "quick" turnarounds with beer. If something needs to "rest" I leave it in a co2 purged corny, thus freeing up fermenter space.
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Dan's funny but also kind of dumb -- people pay lots of money for publicity. Free publicity isn't necessarily anything to mock.
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he got free publicity from becoming an internet "hero" over it.

btw:

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that all entries submitted (whether acceptable or not, regardless of the form they take, and including, without
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other intellectual property and proprietary rights in entries) are irrevocably transferred to, assigned to, and
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perpetuity in any and all media including but not limited to digital and electronic media, computer, print, audio
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or consideration, (iii) shall execute and deliver documents, at Sponsor’s expense, requested by Sponsor or as
may be necessary to vest in Sponsor the rights and waivers provided herein, (iv) agree that email may satisfy
any writing requirement that may apply to the assignment, conveyance, transfer, license, or waiver of any of the
aforementioned rights, (v) waive and release Sponsor from any and all claims that entrants may now or hereafter
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So giving up your rights to ownership/compensation of your work in exchange to watch a fight, and have "your" work published and allowing them to do anything they want with it and your name.

Legally, you wouldn't even be allowed to call it your work and use it to promote yourself.
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Old 08-21-2014, 12:25 PM   #22193
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Legally, you wouldn't even be allowed to call it your work and use it to promote yourself.
Why not? Just because you assign copyright doesn't mean that you can't claim authorship and stick it in a portfolio. See "Work for hire."

This is standard practice in commercial art.
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You're not just assigning a copyright (because that assume you'r making money off it), or giving them a license to use the work, you're straight up donating them the full copyright to your work and along with it all rights associated with it. Meaning they now own the copyright to that work, meaning it's not yours, meaning you can't use someone else's copyrighted work to promote yourself commercially without a license to do so yourself.

Showtime could sue you for claiming it's your work or using it to advertise yourself because you have no claim to rights--see: moral rights; which are the rights to claim authorship. The agreement specifically says you give up your moral rights.

Standard practice in commercial art is to retain copyrights and moral rights. See: VARA

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Old 08-21-2014, 02:03 PM   #22195
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For those who were curious.

And the new one:
http://www.sauberf1team.com/fileadmi...heel_EN_lr.pdf

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Why does that look like a Ford Probe with an Olds Alero front end?

Because that's exactly what it is.
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Old 08-21-2014, 03:15 PM   #22197
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You're not just assigning a copyright (because that assume you'r making money off it), or giving them a license to use the work, you're straight up donating them the full copyright to your work and along with it all rights associated with it. Meaning they now own the copyright to that work, meaning it's not yours, meaning you can't use someone else's copyrighted work to promote yourself commercially without a license to do so yourself.
You were on track right up until "you can't... promote yourself commercially."

The courts have historically upheld the rights of authors to reproduce works-for-hire in their own portfolios under the Fair Use doctrine, provided that said use is not directly commercial (eg: you're not selling copies of your portfolio), your use of the work in your portfolio does not diminish the commercial value of the work for the copyright holder (eg: you're not dropping free copies of your portfolio out of an airplane directly over whoever the target market for the work happens to be), etc.

VARA, as you noted, merely reinforces and codifies this idea. It does not in any way affect the validity of the contract which you quoted earlier.


Here are a couples of articles which discusses this specific matter:

Legal and Ethical Issues Affecting Portfolios

Can I Show My Work in My Portfolio When I Donít Own the Rights Anymore?

Legalities 5: Some Questions About Fair Use | Legalities Articles | AIGA San Francisco


Seriously, it's very rare that I pull rank in these matters, but I've worked in commercial media for the past 15 years, and I know what I'm talking about here. This is such a routine and accepted practice within the industry that nobody who is actually involved in the business would even think to question it.
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this is not work for hire. But I will admit I forgot about the Fair Use. I like all the links say, you're not still "selling" the work, but using it to sell new work. So I'll concede.
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I like all the links say, you're not still "selling" the work, but using it to sell new work.
Precisely.

Despite what JasonC may think, the intent of Copyright Law is not to make life difficult and hamper creativity and technological progress, it is to encourage commerce by protecting the commercial value of copyrighted works. Thus, the courts have always tended to be extremely lenient in permitting unlicensed uses of copyrighted works in contexts in which the commercial interests of the copyright holder are not harmed.

Yes, IP law can be and is often abused. But at the judiciary level, especially at the appellate, it's shockingly rare for judgements to be made against reasonable interpretations of fair use.

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When updating my resume I have no ethical qualms including accomplishments that are technically owned by a current or past employer. Isn't that pretty much what we're talking about?
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