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Old 07-05-2012, 08:51 PM   #11721
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Oh snap...

Just found that same E30 on the bimmerforums except he listed it for $500 instead of $800.

I almost feel duty bound just to show up with $400 cash and see if he'd take it. This car belongs in my driveway no matter what the plan is.
you are out of reasos; show up with 4 bills and make it happen!
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Old 07-05-2012, 09:51 PM   #11722
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200 hp but pretty easily pushed to 300+ hp, right? And parts are ubiquitous and cheap.?
The stock motor in that I car is beyond superior to the 5.0. The 5.0 will also never make the torque that a turbo M20 can make (stock for stock)

MS2
ebay manifold
Holset HX35
used mustang injectors

easy 300-400whp on a bone *** stock motor with more torque than your kidneys can handle.

My other friend (yes, all my car friends have E30's. I am the queer miata driver of the group ) did the combination above and I am tuning it now.
He just broke the $5,000 mark and that includes the car, the motor from my other E30 friend (broken record), turbo, i/c, etc... beefy new clutch and a spare parts car.

Pics for this thread with some fun cliffs.

The 2.7 M20 in the car I am tuning (I head, E bottom)


Most the wiring finished. Just a basic MS2. Fun fact: the downpipe is made from a few pieces of a Greddy 3" turbo back for a GSX. It was given as payment from a friend and we hacked the Greddy downpipe in pieces using eyeball measurements, taped it together and had a local guy TIG it based on our magic marker lines we drew Came out perfect, sold the turbo back for 300 - free downpipe




And here is the parts car we went and picked up.


After about 2 hours of wrenching and a little ingenuity.........


Yes, you are seeing what you think you see. It drove 35 miles from Key West for Big Pine

Moral of the story. I have too much time on my hands and you should do whatever you want because I forgot what the topic of conversation was.

/book.
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Old 07-05-2012, 09:59 PM   #11723
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Old 07-05-2012, 10:00 PM   #11724
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DIYAutotune posted this on their FB page.

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Old 07-05-2012, 10:15 PM   #11725
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I'm not boss. I'm cheap.

Seriously, if/when this Miata sells I'll have $5-6k to start a new project...

What to do, what to do?
That's simple, man! Best friend just picked up a legit rust free E36 roller for $450.00, even had good paint and a pretty nice interior. Gen III 5.3 motors can be found in generic salvage pick-n-pull yards now and a complete motor can be had for under $200.00, yank it yourself. I've seen on CL locally 5.3's complete with harness and ECU sell (people I know) for ~$300. T56's are still ENORMOUSLY high cost, but there are other much stronger transmissions out there available for a little more if you were inclined.

Turbo it.

...

Major profit!

Again, I reference:
594HP 5.3L Gen III Small Block for $3,252 - Hot Rod Magazine

LS*.* > Ford*.*


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After about 2 hours of wrenching and a little ingenuity.........
/Thread!

"Sorry officer..... I....didn't know I couldn't do that??"
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Old 07-05-2012, 10:23 PM   #11726
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700 naturally aspirated horse pressures in the making.






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My Dad was a sport
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Old 07-05-2012, 11:22 PM   #11727
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12 hours of Sebring 2012 and such.



I'll be driving there again Saturday, yay!
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Old 07-05-2012, 11:23 PM   #11728
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Old 07-05-2012, 11:38 PM   #11729
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The old 302 can make over 400hp with just heads and high ratio rockers. Stock CR, stock cam.

Not that I dont like the idea of the big turbo 4, but a SBF is nothing to shrug off.
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Old 07-05-2012, 11:44 PM   #11730
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700 naturally aspirated horse pressures in the making.






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That motor is overbuilt too.

It doesnt take a RHS block, MAST heads, and an ITB setup to make 700hp N/A.

There are guys doing it on GM blocks with a stock style intake and GM or TFS heads, and even keeping the hydraulic roller.

Step it up to a solid roller and you can make even more.



Last LSx swap we did. Did cammed LS1 and T56 and some 4:56s. She boogies from a dig for a truck. Has about the nastiest street T56 you can build.
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Old 07-06-2012, 02:17 AM   #11731
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Well you should drive down the street and tell him about it. Endyn is in DFW, and I'm sure Larry would love to have your input on his parts selection.
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There are guys doing it on GM blocks with a stock style intake and GM or TFS heads, and even keeping the hydraulic roller.
Like who? Examples?
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Old 07-06-2012, 08:07 AM   #11733
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How does the scanner do? Much detail, or only suited for text scanning?
Scanner is actually pretty good in color. It has a pretty high resolution (1200dpi) and the color representation seems pretty close. I did have my first problem after I posted. I was manually feeding an envelope and it said paper jam. I think I just didn't insert the envelope far enough as I went through the steps to make it shut up and it worked fine.
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Like who? Examples?
+1.. I don't spend a significant amount of time researching LSx builds, but I've yet to see even ONE 500+hp NA LS motor, especially on stock induction..
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+1.. I don't spend a significant amount of time researching LSx builds, but I've yet to see even ONE 500+hp NA LS motor, especially on stock induction..
Yeah. My cousin with I think an LS2? From a WS6 Trans Am was pretty heavily built n/a, and to the other mullet wearing guys, his power was pretty impressive. He was only making mid 400's. I just can't imagine 700hp+ on a n/a LSx. I require proof.
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Old 07-06-2012, 04:34 PM   #11736
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The stock motor in that I car is beyond superior to the 5.0. The 5.0 will also never make the torque that a turbo M20 can make (stock for stock)

MS2
ebay manifold
Holset HX35
used mustang injectors

easy 300-400whp on a bone *** stock motor with more torque than your kidneys can handle.
Crap...I'm now discussing trades with the E30 owner.

Then I looked up M20 heads on eBay.

Sooo...if I dropped, say $450 (or equivalent trade value) on the E30, then $385 on an ebay head if I couldn't find one locally...

A straight, rust-free, running 1989 325i for under $850?

And then I could drive it around while deciding whether to swap in a manual and do a turbo build, or swap in something else.
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one day at work:



then the next day:

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also it was REALLY HOT last weekend.

animals were apparently actually cooking on the sidewalk?

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Sooo...if I dropped, say $450 (or equivalent trade value) on the E30, then $385 on an ebay head if I couldn't find one locally...
Do yourself a big favor and make sure you get a 325i or 325is. You get the better cylinder head, the sport suspension, better rear end gearing and, imo, the best starting platform.

Then if you wanted to do a 2.7, all you would need is the E bottom end (which can be had for cheap) and you could reuse your I head.

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A straight, rust-free, running 1989 325i for under $850?

And then I could drive it around while deciding whether to swap in a manual and do a turbo build, or swap in something else.
I think that might be hard to find for that price. The E30 is like the new miata; lots of people want them and are racing them. The demand is higher for clean, running cars. However, also like the miata, I wouldn't be afraid to buy a non-running car if I was sure I was going to dig into the motor for a possible swap.

It's your call, though.


And to help push you over the edge....
89 325i turbo, the fun daily driver build - e30tech.com Forums

400wtrq @ 4krpm - ARP head bolts, mild cam


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