Want or do not want? Subaru BRZ STI
11-13-2012, 01:47 AM
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This is going to sound crazy, but lately I've been eyeing the '13 Hyundai Genesis 2.0T R-Spec as a contender to the brz/frs. I gotta say, with the new setup producing 274/275, torque everywhere, and 3400lb weight (that can easily be "dieted" to lose at least 3-400lbs), and I'm sure bolt ons and tune will pick up a ton of power/torque, might be worth considering.
I know I know, its probably a wacky thought, but doesn't look like it at 1st glance
I know I know, its probably a wacky thought, but doesn't look like it at 1st glance
My next car will probably be an 01+ Miata mixing daily/CR/track style all together. I really want 180- 200whp NA, MS diff/axels, MS headlights, Elise seats, Nickle 10's 245, xp10/8, hardtop, White exterior/red leather every where. If I wasn't getting all my debt way down it would be an FR-S.
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11-13-2012, 08:09 AM
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Eh the genesis was just a thought.
And I'm fairly sure you had the previous gen, not the 2013 (though they're probably same in handling and whatnot).
I love my current 01, just wish Rev would hurry up and get enhanced MS3x going for us so I can finally boost it. I find myself looking at other cars, etc simply because of how slow my miata currently is. It amazes me how anyone could drive a non-turbo miata. OMFG
In a few years, when opensource is (hopefully) developed for the BRZ/FRS, and turbo kits are refined and perfected (as well as cheaper), I think they will be absolutely bitchin cars.
*edit: and if not, AP2 s2000's will be cheaper, and are phenomenal cars.
And I'm fairly sure you had the previous gen, not the 2013 (though they're probably same in handling and whatnot).
I love my current 01, just wish Rev would hurry up and get enhanced MS3x going for us so I can finally boost it. I find myself looking at other cars, etc simply because of how slow my miata currently is. It amazes me how anyone could drive a non-turbo miata. OMFG
In a few years, when opensource is (hopefully) developed for the BRZ/FRS, and turbo kits are refined and perfected (as well as cheaper), I think they will be absolutely bitchin cars.
*edit: and if not, AP2 s2000's will be cheaper, and are phenomenal cars.
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11-13-2012, 09:05 AM
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Options packages are slightly different. I believe the Scion has some sort of nav system in the higher trim level.
Damn, I really want one of these. I hate my Jeep.
Damn, I really want one of these. I hate my Jeep.
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11-13-2012, 01:35 PM
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A buddy of mine who is closer to the know told me that in a year or two you'll see more options for the FR-S as it becomes more part of Scion's branding of "customization" for everyone.
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11-27-2012, 09:32 AM
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browsing Innovate Motorsports site today...............
........and see this:
High Performance Supercharger for Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 / Subaru BRZ
I think the design is great. If it gives the car the biggest thing its lacking, torque, I think its going to be pretty awesome.
........and see this:
High Performance Supercharger for Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 / Subaru BRZ
I think the design is great. If it gives the car the biggest thing its lacking, torque, I think its going to be pretty awesome.
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11-27-2012, 01:18 PM
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More info on the Innovate setup:
Innovate Motorsports Twin Screw Supercharger Kit for FR-S/BRZ - Scion FR-S Forum | Subaru BRZ Forum | Toyota 86 GT 86 Forum | AS1 Forum - FT86CLUB
0.94 liter twin screw; Edit: MSRP: $3495 base stage 1 non-intercooled model. $4695 is the full stage 2 with intercooler and fuel system upgrades.
Now someone go read through this whole thread and see what the Vortech kit on Perrin's car did:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21222
Innovate Motorsports Twin Screw Supercharger Kit for FR-S/BRZ - Scion FR-S Forum | Subaru BRZ Forum | Toyota 86 GT 86 Forum | AS1 Forum - FT86CLUB
0.94 liter twin screw; Edit: MSRP: $3495 base stage 1 non-intercooled model. $4695 is the full stage 2 with intercooler and fuel system upgrades.
There will be both intercooled and non-intercooled kits available. The intercooled version of the kit will utilize highly efficient Laminova air to liquid intercooler cores integrated in to the intake manifold. There will also be a proven OEM grade Bosch pump and properly matched aluminum heat exchanger. The non-intercooled kit will be optimized for lower boost levels and offer a very competitive and attractive MSRP.
Now someone go read through this whole thread and see what the Vortech kit on Perrin's car did:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21222
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11-28-2012, 05:35 PM
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That looks pretty good. In particular, I'm impressed by their solution to the challenge of lubricate a low-mount turbo like that.
I'd be curious to know what, if anything, is done in regards to fueling and timing, beyond the terse note that "it will work with the standard fueling system for a complete bolt on and go setup." Are they including whatever tool you need to reflash the stock ECU, or is the stock ECU really so awesome that it can deal with this boost without any software modifications?
We are unique in utilizing a mechanical oil pump that we locate at the back of the engine, which runs off the back of the RH camshaft. There is also a oil reservoir tank right off the turbocharger itself.
I'd be curious to know what, if anything, is done in regards to fueling and timing, beyond the terse note that "it will work with the standard fueling system for a complete bolt on and go setup." Are they including whatever tool you need to reflash the stock ECU, or is the stock ECU really so awesome that it can deal with this boost without any software modifications?
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11-28-2012, 05:43 PM
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The stock ECU has already been cracked and I believe there are already a few open source tuning options available. Eutek already has a multiple map setup to switch between E85 and 93 octane.
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11-28-2012, 05:51 PM
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Ah, yes. I didn't click through to the "Buy It" link.
"MSRP on the kit will be $3800.00, and will include the EcuTek base tune. An EcuTek License and OBD-II cable are optional."
Still, not at all a bad deal. I have no idea how much EcuTek charges for their software package (for the life of me, I can't find them anywhere- seems like they only sell to tuning shops?) but given the general open-ness of Subaru ECUs, I'm sure that RomRaider packages will be available.
"MSRP on the kit will be $3800.00, and will include the EcuTek base tune. An EcuTek License and OBD-II cable are optional."
Still, not at all a bad deal. I have no idea how much EcuTek charges for their software package (for the life of me, I can't find them anywhere- seems like they only sell to tuning shops?) but given the general open-ness of Subaru ECUs, I'm sure that RomRaider packages will be available.
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