what to do when your toyota wigs out
03-16-2010, 06:30 PM
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for ***** and giggle in 3rd gear yesterday I stomped on the gas in my altima. then hit the brakes with my left foot while staying WOT, car stopped immediately. Brakes torque > Engine torque.
wanan guess what the procedure is to test the stall speed of your auto tranny? hold brake, floor it.. mine slips at 2300RPM in my prelude.
wanan guess what the procedure is to test the stall speed of your auto tranny? hold brake, floor it.. mine slips at 2300RPM in my prelude.
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03-16-2010, 10:14 PM
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^^^ demonstrates a great point... but HOLY ****
Does he kiss his wife with that mouth... clean it up for the kids, show it in drivers ed class.... Plus If he is going to rant, Post it publically, were people can still find out who he is, Why be the Black sock Masked man. Stupid ******...
Does he kiss his wife with that mouth... clean it up for the kids, show it in drivers ed class.... Plus If he is going to rant, Post it publically, were people can still find out who he is, Why be the Black sock Masked man. Stupid ******...
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03-16-2010, 11:07 PM
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ok so with this whole toyota thing and the gas pedal sticking.
my friend works for toyota and is doing all the recall parts and he loves all this extra work cause of flat rate....but anyway i was talking to him about it and there have only been 12 reported incidents of the gas pedal sticking due to the failed solenoid.
here's the kicker tho....its a GM part that's failing....
my friend works for toyota and is doing all the recall parts and he loves all this extra work cause of flat rate....but anyway i was talking to him about it and there have only been 12 reported incidents of the gas pedal sticking due to the failed solenoid.
here's the kicker tho....its a GM part that's failing....
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03-16-2010, 11:16 PM
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Thirty hundred times I've had a throttle stick wfo. Each time I managed to turn the ignition off. I never cease to be amazed at my talent, skill, experience, ability, alertness, reverence......whatever.
How do you suppose this entire hoax came about? With the gov investment in GM, nah, nevermind, my mind is loose and wandering...
Corky
I'd buy a Toyota in a heart beat
How do you suppose this entire hoax came about? With the gov investment in GM, nah, nevermind, my mind is loose and wandering...
Corky
I'd buy a Toyota in a heart beat
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03-16-2010, 11:28 PM
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Thirty hundred times I've had a throttle stick wfo. Each time I managed to turn the ignition off. I never cease to be amazed at my talent, skill, experience, ability, alertness, reverence......whatever.
How do you suppose this entire hoax came about? With the gov investment in GM, nah, nevermind, my mind is loose and wandering...
Corky
I'd buy a Toyota in a heart beat
How do you suppose this entire hoax came about? With the gov investment in GM, nah, nevermind, my mind is loose and wandering...
Corky
I'd buy a Toyota in a heart beat
And epic win on the youtube video. First post was funny too
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03-16-2010, 11:34 PM
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While I feel for his family, I still find it rather odd myself that nobody seem to know how to put a ******* car in neutral or turn the god damn ignition off. Completely blows my mind.
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03-17-2010, 12:21 AM
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The united states and the media continue to cater to stupid people. Whats wrong with just saying your stupid, tough ****? Were not bailing you out, you can't manage your money. Your too dumb to realize what a seat belt is, so we make it a law. Its why when someone comes up to me and starts babbling spanish, and i tell them to speak english, because they're in america, someone tells me i am inconsiderate or rude. (Walk up and speak english in a foreign country and see how well that works out for you, with out asking for english first.) Holy crap, your a retard, i should feel bad for you because your too dumb to work that chicken nugget in your head that your lucky keeps you breathing. You spill hot *** coffee on yourself and sue the people that made it for you, because lord knows you wouldn't have bitched if it was colder..... not. If we started smacking dumbasses and quit defending them and giving them money to quit bothering us, we wouldn't even see this on the news. Well, that and they are hoping it will bail out GM.
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03-17-2010, 01:17 AM
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I will not own a vehicle that does not have a hard power off mechanism. All of my current vehicles have a keyed ignition switch. If/when we get a vehicle that automagically knows I have the key in my pocket and starts when I push a button, that car is getting a kill switch put on it. The military has the budget and testing resources to make a completely control-by-wire vehicle. I don't believe current automakers do. I will not drive a vehicle completely controlled by software unless I can shut down that software with a hardwired switch.
The dumbass in the news this week with the "stuck acclerator" in a prius was clearly a lying sack of ****. And this video is funny, sure. I laughed. But ... the gearshift on a Prius doesn't actually control anything. It just sends a signal to the computer. If the computer is fuxored, you are fuxored. But I seriously doubt the CHP officer failed to attempt to put his car in neutral.
Corky - of your stuck WOT experiences that you recovered from - how many of those vehicles had electronic throttles? How many of them had electronic throttles, no keyed ignition switch, and a transmission selector that wasn't actually a mechanical connection into the transmission, and only told the computer which solenoids to fire?
And to be clear, I am not technology shy. I rank fairly high on the technogeek scale. But what I do for a living is help design computing systems to be robust and fault tolerant. Right now, it looks to me like Toyota has a fault in their software, the recovery from which is not clear. One cannot usually disconnect the negative battery terminal to reboot the car. Thus, my kill switch requirement.
The dumbass in the news this week with the "stuck acclerator" in a prius was clearly a lying sack of ****. And this video is funny, sure. I laughed. But ... the gearshift on a Prius doesn't actually control anything. It just sends a signal to the computer. If the computer is fuxored, you are fuxored. But I seriously doubt the CHP officer failed to attempt to put his car in neutral.
Corky - of your stuck WOT experiences that you recovered from - how many of those vehicles had electronic throttles? How many of them had electronic throttles, no keyed ignition switch, and a transmission selector that wasn't actually a mechanical connection into the transmission, and only told the computer which solenoids to fire?
And to be clear, I am not technology shy. I rank fairly high on the technogeek scale. But what I do for a living is help design computing systems to be robust and fault tolerant. Right now, it looks to me like Toyota has a fault in their software, the recovery from which is not clear. One cannot usually disconnect the negative battery terminal to reboot the car. Thus, my kill switch requirement.
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03-17-2010, 01:51 AM
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I will not own a vehicle that does not have a hard power off mechanism. All of my current vehicles have a keyed ignition switch. If/when we get a vehicle that automagically knows I have the key in my pocket and starts when I push a button, that car is getting a kill switch put on it. The military has the budget and testing resources to make a completely control-by-wire vehicle. I don't believe current automakers do. I will not drive a vehicle completely controlled by software unless I can shut down that software with a hardwired switch.
The dumbass in the news this week with the "stuck acclerator" in a prius was clearly a lying sack of ****. And this video is funny, sure. I laughed. But ... the gearshift on a Prius doesn't actually control anything. It just sends a signal to the computer. If the computer is fuxored, you are fuxored. But I seriously doubt the CHP officer failed to attempt to put his car in neutral.
Corky - of your stuck WOT experiences that you recovered from - how many of those vehicles had electronic throttles? How many of them had electronic throttles, no keyed ignition switch, and a transmission selector that wasn't actually a mechanical connection into the transmission, and only told the computer which solenoids to fire?
And to be clear, I am not technology shy. I rank fairly high on the technogeek scale. But what I do for a living is help design computing systems to be robust and fault tolerant. Right now, it looks to me like Toyota has a fault in their software, the recovery from which is not clear. One cannot usually disconnect the negative battery terminal to reboot the car. Thus, my kill switch requirement.
The dumbass in the news this week with the "stuck acclerator" in a prius was clearly a lying sack of ****. And this video is funny, sure. I laughed. But ... the gearshift on a Prius doesn't actually control anything. It just sends a signal to the computer. If the computer is fuxored, you are fuxored. But I seriously doubt the CHP officer failed to attempt to put his car in neutral.
Corky - of your stuck WOT experiences that you recovered from - how many of those vehicles had electronic throttles? How many of them had electronic throttles, no keyed ignition switch, and a transmission selector that wasn't actually a mechanical connection into the transmission, and only told the computer which solenoids to fire?
And to be clear, I am not technology shy. I rank fairly high on the technogeek scale. But what I do for a living is help design computing systems to be robust and fault tolerant. Right now, it looks to me like Toyota has a fault in their software, the recovery from which is not clear. One cannot usually disconnect the negative battery terminal to reboot the car. Thus, my kill switch requirement.
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.My floor mat gets crammed underneath the pedals in my scion too but I have yet to be involved in an accident or incident for that matter.
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03-17-2010, 08:12 AM
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it's not the right time to be sober
now the idiots have taken over
spreading like a social cancer, is there an answer?
Mensa membership conceding
tell me why and how are all the stupid people breeding
Watson, it's really elementary
the industrial revolution
has flipped the bitch on evolution
the benevolent and wise are being thwarted, ostracized, what a bummer
the world keeps getting dumber
insensitivity is standard and faith is being fancied over reason
darwin's rollin over in his coffin
the fittest are surviving much less often
now everything seems to be reversing, and it's worsening
someone flopped a steamer in the gene pool
now angry mob mentality's no longer the exception, it's the rule
and im startin to feel a lot like charlton heston
stranded on a primate planet
apes and orangutans that ran it to the ground
with generals and the armies that obeyed them
followers following fables
philosophies that enable them to rule without regard
there's no point for democracy when ignorance is celebrated
political scientists get the same one vote as some Arkansas inbred
majority rule, don't work in mental institutions
sometimes the smallest softest voice carries the grand biggest solutions
what are we left with?
a nation of god-fearing pregnant nationalists
who feel it's their duty to populate the homeland
pass on traditions
how to get ahead religions
And prosperity via simpleton culture
the idiots are takin over [x8]
now the idiots have taken over
spreading like a social cancer, is there an answer?
Mensa membership conceding
tell me why and how are all the stupid people breeding
Watson, it's really elementary
the industrial revolution
has flipped the bitch on evolution
the benevolent and wise are being thwarted, ostracized, what a bummer
the world keeps getting dumber
insensitivity is standard and faith is being fancied over reason
darwin's rollin over in his coffin
the fittest are surviving much less often
now everything seems to be reversing, and it's worsening
someone flopped a steamer in the gene pool
now angry mob mentality's no longer the exception, it's the rule
and im startin to feel a lot like charlton heston
stranded on a primate planet
apes and orangutans that ran it to the ground
with generals and the armies that obeyed them
followers following fables
philosophies that enable them to rule without regard
there's no point for democracy when ignorance is celebrated
political scientists get the same one vote as some Arkansas inbred
majority rule, don't work in mental institutions
sometimes the smallest softest voice carries the grand biggest solutions
what are we left with?
a nation of god-fearing pregnant nationalists
who feel it's their duty to populate the homeland
pass on traditions
how to get ahead religions
And prosperity via simpleton culture
the idiots are takin over [x8]
Because you know they are crazy liberals
but some songs don't sound liberal at all...
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03-17-2010, 03:03 PM
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Drive by wire without double or triple redundancy is just plain stupid.
It would be really nice to know what actually happened with that CHP officer. Did he try to shut it off? Did he try shifting into neutral? Downshifting? Hammering the brakes before speed got ridiculous? Rubbing the car hard against any guard rails or barriers? You would think he would have but I'm guessing not. If he'd tried all that I'd think they'd be alive today. Panic makes people stupid. Cops are not immune.
It would be really nice to know what actually happened with that CHP officer. Did he try to shut it off? Did he try shifting into neutral? Downshifting? Hammering the brakes before speed got ridiculous? Rubbing the car hard against any guard rails or barriers? You would think he would have but I'm guessing not. If he'd tried all that I'd think they'd be alive today. Panic makes people stupid. Cops are not immune.
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03-17-2010, 03:45 PM
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you think cops are cops because they are smart and/or skilled? someone smart/skilled in the line of work would be a hired bodyguard making G's not someone just trying to ride out his 20 years of service and get his pension.
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