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Old 07-21-2012, 01:06 PM   #2241
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after carrying a FSN for a couple months, I switched back to my .357 mag. the FSN is cool and all, but I don't like carrying with a holster and the RAILZ used to grind into my flesh.
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The more comical part of that is I can't even SEE 500 yards... to hit something with irons? Not unless I got lucky
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Old 07-23-2012, 01:11 AM   #2243
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Old 07-23-2012, 11:31 AM   #2244
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I found a great spot in the everglades. Went there Saturday evening, got a speck of ---- on my head by a passing vulture, killed two of them that day and two other undisclosed animals. The .454 is a beast and super accurate from much farther than I was anticipating. I love it.



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Old 07-25-2012, 06:42 PM   #2245
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Got a $100 Amazon gift card for b-day from Dad... bought a few gizmos.

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Old 07-25-2012, 07:21 PM   #2246
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Anyone got experience with the Steyr M-A1? I finally saw one today. Very impressive trigger on it...didn't get to fire it, though.
Steyr Mannlicher US: Steyr Pistol M-A1
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I went to the range yesterday, shot a AR-15 in .22lr and a H&K USP in .40 S&W. The AR had feeding issues, probably because its a range gun and it looks like it hasn't been cleaned in forever, fun gat though. I didn't like trigger pull on the USP at all, way too long.
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Anyone got experience with the Steyr M-A1? I finally saw one today. Very impressive trigger on it...didn't get to fire it, though.
Steyr Mannlicher US:-Steyr Pistol M-A1
I own one. I love it. It's an interesting pistol -- designed in-house by a Glock employee as an update/improvement on the Glock. When Glock chose not to use his design, he requested and received permission to sell the design to Steyr-Mannlicher instead.

Pros:
  • Super low bore axis (incredibly soft and controllable recoil)
  • Trigger is better than Glock/XD in my opinion
  • Trigger gets even better with Glide-Rite striker pin bushings
  • Fully supported chamber in all chamberings
  • Fit/finish better than Glock/XD
  • Incredibly accurate (comparable to my HK P7 and SIG P225)
  • Completely reliable (as long as you have the updated extractor and mag springs from Steyr)
  • Relatively cheap magazines

Cons:
  • Grip angle doesn't work for everyone (I hate Glocks, but love this)
  • Trigger may not be as good as worked-over Glock/XD trigger
  • Had to request updated extractor and mag springs from Steyr for 100% reliability (new pistols should be fine)
  • Questionable future support and parts availability (compared to Glock/XD)
  • Trapezoidal sights (I like them, and if you don't, can be swapped for traditional sights of your choice)
  • Slightly bigger than G19 (with same mag cap)
  • Not much choice in holsters (compared to Glock/XD)

I snagged mine from CDNN when they were blowing them out for $350. It's a no brainer at that price (really, at under $400, I'd take it over a beat up Glock or XD). Over $400...you're probably safer with one of the Glock/XD/M&P group for mags, parts availability, and company support.

Once mine was sorted out with the updated extractor and mag springs, however, I put it through its paces and feel 100% confidence in it. I also added a stainless steel guide rod and the Glide-Rite strike pin bushings. It's my nightstand pistol.

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Old 07-26-2012, 01:57 AM   #2249
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Any idea where I can get an M&P15 Sport? No one has them in stock and with what Hussein said today, now is the time to buy.
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Any idea where I can get an M&P15 Sport? No one has them in stock and with what Hussein said today, now is the time to buy.
If all else fails get one of these.
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Old 07-26-2012, 02:09 AM   #2251
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If all else fails get one of these.
I don't know enough to build one, and I want to swap to 22LR too, just for the range. With Hussein Obamadenijad's comments today, it's time to get one before the prices skyrocket, supply dwindles, or another AR ban.
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Spring Guns & Ammo here in Houston had a few M&Ps on the shelf today. Not sure if any were the 15 Sport.
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I don't know enough to build one, and I want to swap to 22LR too, just for the range. With Hussein Obamadenijad's comments today, it's time to get one before the prices skyrocket, supply dwindles, or another AR ban.
I really really believe if you can build a turbo miata you can build an AR. Just crack one open and have a look at a complete lower receiver, diffidently not impossible.
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Old 07-26-2012, 02:17 AM   #2254
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I own one. I love it. It's an interesting pistol -- designed in-house by a Glock employee as an update/improvement on the Glock. When Glock chose not to use his design, he requested and received permission to sell the design to Steyr-Mannlicher instead.

Pros:
  • Super low bore axis (incredibly soft and controllable recoil)
  • Trigger is better than Glock/XD in my opinion
  • Trigger gets even better with Glide-Rite striker pin bushings
  • Fully supported chamber in all chamberings
  • Fit/finish better than Glock/XD
  • Incredibly accurate (comparable to my HK P7 and SIG P225)
  • Completely reliable (as long as you have the updated extractor and mag springs from Steyr)
  • Relatively cheap magazines

Cons:
  • Grip angle doesn't work for everyone (I hate Glocks, but love this)
  • Trigger may not be as good as worked-over Glock/XD trigger
  • Had to request updated extractor and mag springs from Steyr for 100% reliability (new pistols should be fine)
  • Questionable future support and parts availability (compared to Glock/XD)
  • Trapezoidal sights (I like them, and if you don't, can be swapped for traditional sights of your choice)
  • Slightly bigger than G19 (with same mag cap)
  • Not much choice in holsters (compared to Glock/XD)

I snagged mine from CDNN when they were blowing them out for $350. It's a no brainer at that price (really, at under $400, I'd take it over a beat up Glock or XD). Over $400...you're probably safer with one of the Glock/XD/M&P group for mags, parts availability, and company support.

Once mine was sorted out with the updated extractor and mag springs, however, I put it through its paces and feel 100% confidence in it. I also added a stainless steel guide rod and the Glide-Rite strike pin bushings. It's my nightstand pistol.

Great info, thanks! These are all the pistols I'm considering, so this is a huge help. The M9-A1 the shop had was $519, so probably a little steep compared to the competition.

I've fired one of my friend's XDM-9's with a Powder River Precision trigger. THAT was nice. The Steyr's trigger seemed not to far off.

Then again, I'm pretty much a gun noob. I qual'd on the M9 when I was in the AF, but shooting it once every two years doesn't help much.
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Old 07-26-2012, 03:31 PM   #2255
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Anythoughts on a Kahr or HiPoint carbine 9mm?
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Anythoughts on a Kahr or HiPoint carbine 9mm?
The HiPoint is an awesome gun. The latest versions even have a stock that isn't completely butt-ugly. My only problem is they take proprietary 10rd magazine... I think somebody sells an aftermarket 15rd mag though. Whatever moron at HiPoint decided not to use another brands hi-cap mag lost out on a huge demographic.

Look at Keltec... their Sub2000 takes 4 different kinds of mags you can get in 30rd configurations, and they sell for almost double MSRP and are unavailable on shelves, and most FFL's wont take a deposit or order one for you because of how hard they are to get.

The equally as ugly Beretta CX4 used the hi-cap mags from the 92f and is even more expensive than a Keltec... and I can't believe they are any more reliable than the Hi-Point, which has a reliablility reputation that's equal to anything else you can name.

IMHO, the HiPoint is almost the perfect gun. I can even get over how ugly it is. I've fired on once and it was great... but lack of hi-cap mags is a complete and utter deal breaker.

Your other options in a "black-type gun" is the Just Right Carbine, or the MechTech Glock carbine conversion... which after it's kitt'd out, is more than 2 HiPoints.
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I'm thinking a 3-9x40 is bit overkill... but a basic 30mm reddot would be perfect for a gun you're not gonna shoot past about 100yds... maybe 150yds... but this one is fairly tacticool.
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Old 07-26-2012, 04:40 PM   #2257
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Thanks, I like the Hi Point because it saves me about $500. Now that I know there is a big-mag out there, I'm even more interested. The single-stack 10-rd mag is retarded. A Hi Point with carbine with a Trijicon sight would be cool and cheap to shoot.

Can I shoot those at any range?
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The sad thing I used to see those Hi-Point carbines for $125-150 at gun shows. Now I see them $300+.
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The sad thing I used to see those Hi-Point carbines for $125-150 at gun shows. Now I see them $300+.
That's what happens when they get popular.

Sub2000 was the same. MSRP is $409.00 and you see ******** @ shows trying to sell them for $599 when they should sell for $290ish.

Hipoint carbine is one of my favorite cheap guns also. What drew me to the 2k is glock magazines are very cheap and very plentiful for 33 rounders, plus I already own a glock handgun.
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Yeah, I've got a LWD Timberwolf Glock frame that I've thought about building up with a G17 upper...and then stockpiling G17 mags...and then picking up a Sub 2K that takes G17 mags...
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