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Old 01-31-2016, 07:07 PM   #5301
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I'm in Florida coming back from Rolex 24 race now, get in at 11:30 and working tonight. Yea
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Old 02-03-2016, 10:49 AM   #5302
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This seems like it may be a little more difficult to make at home:

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This seems like it may be a little more difficult to make at home:

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Old 02-04-2016, 12:34 AM   #5305
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I've been watching a few threads on this thing develop in other forums over the years... looks like it works pretty good at what it's designed to do, but it's still louder than a modern baffle design. Don't let the demo at the end of his video convince you otherwise... there's no way that was a legit 5.56 round being fired but almost certainly 300blk subs... still impressive.

I've shot quite a few suppressed guns, including .338LM and .338Edge bolt guns at long range... you're still gonna have the supersonic crack at 1100fps or greater despite them being hearing safe at the shooters ear.

Also... at the $1500 pricetag, they aren't making it into the hands of many enthusiasts, which is why all the YT videos are from companies trying to market them and not regular dudes. I'm sure they've been fielded specops types who just have yet to come forward with their opinions. I've got an aquanaut buddy in the office that I'll ask tomorrow if he knows anything about them.
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Old 02-04-2016, 12:50 AM   #5306
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Is 1500 really that outlandish? Thats only a few hundred bucks more than a normal Ti baffled design and no matter what you're in for the 2 hundo tax stamp. I tried to see if there was a good shot of the ejected casing to see if it was blackout, couldnt. But I did keep getting distracted by the lack of eyepro, bounce back shield for the bullet trap and that he was shooting into a bullet trap without gauntlets on.
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This thread ended up on the 2nd page again...

Several pieces of news... first, the Founder of OSS bailed:
Operator Suppressor Systems Founder And President Russ Oliver Resigns - The Firearm Blog

Also, WTFDITOT... I need a couple of you Cali types to buy this and write a review. I might get one just to try it out, but there are zero reviews out there yet. BoAR Grip

Also... late-winter reloading season is upon me. It's supposed to be in the low 70's for the next 2 weeks here in VA, which reminds me that I've been slacking on ammo production. I hate reloading during the summer because it's too ******* hot... here's the first 1000rds of .308 about 3/4 through brass processing. I still need to trim about 500 cases and then chamfer all of them. I've got an RCBS case-prep center, so it goes fast. These are all getting 110gr FMJ's at about 2500fps... just ringing steel stuff, but 12" plates at 300yds are no problem.

I've got about 3000rds of .223 that will be next, and then a few thousand more 9mm should be a good start.
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A friend has a 50 Beowulf I'm going to help him load for. I have all the Alexander Arms loading info & a pile of different half inch slugs to try. Wanted to ask, does anyone have any hands-on experience loading for this round that I should be aware of? When cleaning the brass I noticed that it really did not clean well, which my friend says seems to be common, so I wonder about the brass sealing the chamber when fired.
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******* hell, that thing is weird. It looks like it would bring the index finger in at a 45~ish degree angle?

Also, as a Cali type, why do I want to buy this?
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As an instructor on ARs, one of the key things we teach is to keep the elbows vertical, and close to the body for recoil control and stability, especially while moving.

That thing would force elbow out and lead to instability, IMHO. Not to mention the angle of the trigger finger.

More CA nonsense trying to circumvent the stupid regs in the Peoples Rebpublic...
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Maybe I don't understand it but I can't see what its trying to circumvent here.

If anything it looks like it was designed to work around New York laws, not California laws. Derp?
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I don't recall the exact verbiage, but something about a grip that 'protrudes conspicuously below the receiver' being one of the elements that makes an 'assault rifle'.

Kind of like what they were doing with 'thumbhole' stocks a while back on AKs...
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It's all about the definition of an "assault rifle". In Cali, there are lots of semi-auto centerfire rifles with detachable mags that are not "assault rifles"... they're called Ruger Mini-14's. The deal with several models of the Mini is that is has no evil features (pistol grip, bayonet lug, grenade launcher, muzzle device, adjustable stock, etc...) and therefore can have a detachable mag (albeit 10rds in Cali). As soon as you put one evil feature on a gun, it becomes an AW, and you have to use a bullet-button or other type of magazine lock.


Yes, yes, there are other rifles out there besides the Mini that we could name, but that's the famous one that was a focal point of getting the 1994 ban passed originally.


So... in order to make your AR15 "not" an AW, you have to remove all the evil features, including the pistol grip, and then you can have a detachable mag. Lots of different way to skin the cat for fixing the grip... some better than others. If this thing works even halfway decently, it's pretty **** for keeping your detachable mags in ban states.


****, some people might like it better than a regular grip after they try it. I'm gonna have to get one.
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Old 03-07-2016, 05:13 PM   #5314
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Any of you gheys preppers? I watched a two different videos depicting life after an emp attack and a cyber attack on the power grid. I think a cyber attack is more probable. I ask here because more gun owners are into prepping.

I am looking for a potable water storage tank. I havent figured out the size needed yet. I am also looking into dry food storage. Not sure yet if buying it already packed or doing it myself.

I have been working on the other parts over the years. I want to start putting together the food/water side of it.
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I have some blue plastic 55 gallon water storage containers that I got from Sportsman's Warehouse. Also have a hot tub that holds hundreds of gallons of water. Have 2 freezers full of game meat, a generator, about 50 chickens & a half acre garden. I think of it more as being "self sufficient"..
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For water storage, the 275 gallon stackable containers are hard to beat for the price. Check your craigslist, there are bound to be some available for cheap.

Here's an ebay listing, $75/each.

275 Gallon Totes IBC Containers Tanks Storage Tote Tank Container Water Barrel | eBay
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For water storage, the 275 gallon stackable containers are hard to beat for the price. Check your craigslist, there are bound to be some available for cheap.

Here's an ebay listing, $75/each.

275 Gallon Totes IBC Containers Tanks Storage Tote Tank Container Water Barrel | eBay

Great price. Thinking that wont fit through my basement door. (Standard door)
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I reloaded some shot shells for the first time saturday and patterned them on sunday. Strange that my reloads patterned a shitload tighter. Like with a mod choke on the 18.5" AR12 I was getting like over 2 foot patterns at 20ish yards and with my reloads I'm getting like 15" as the same distance with the same gun and choke. Only difference is factory loads were remington wads because remington shells, and reloads I used the generic AA wads. I'd be ok with it if it wasnt for the fact that the silly AR12 came with 4 chokes; cylinder, mod, full, turkey and the 5 stand at my club is like on the boarder between light mod and mod for distance. I might just have to give cylinder a try. They are 1 1/8 oz of #7.5 shot at what should be 1200fps so it shouldnt take too many pellets hitting the clay to make a break.
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I hope the price of Estate #7.5 never gets high enough that reloading shotshell looks like a good idea. For the few times a year I go, a $50 trip to Walmart is well worth not going down that road.

As for "prepping"... I both love and hate what that stupid ******* show did. The good news was that it brought the whole thing out very mainstream, ignited it into a full-blown "industry" and sparked innovation and product development that never would have happened. OTOH... it made the average dude with a few extra propane tanks look like a delusional conspiracy nutjob.

For the next 4 years at least, I'll be living on base and housing backs up to a 200acre lake... it's slowed my general collection of long-term prepping "stuff" because I have an unlimited food and water supply out the back door. I've got life-straws for everybody and a DIY charcoal filter system for cooking water... will supplement with boiling when I get the solar cooker built.

If you don't have room for the IBC totes, then this product can come in handy... we have 4 ready to go and will fill them up if a hurricane looks like it's gonna get close:
Amazon.com: waterBOB Emergency Drinking Water Storage (100 Gallons): Home Improvement Amazon.com: waterBOB Emergency Drinking Water Storage (100 Gallons): Home Improvement

I've got about a month of MountainHouse/Wise for the fam and 10 full 25lb propane tanks. I've got enough batteries of all kinds to power all my small things for a month or so, and a few 12volts in the garage for whatever. I think the market for solar is now to the point where I'm going to homework a setup big enough to recharge my 12 volts so that I can run basic power tools through an inverter as required.

I've also been on the lookout for a free projection TV to salvage the screen lens out of so I can make one of these... when I get motivated, I'll start hawking the CL free-stuff and grab one if I don't luck across one in the meantime:

We do a very small garden all summer long that isn't big enough for more than a week if we lean on it, but this summer I'm gonna double the size and pay a lot more attention to it. One small salad a day for 4 is the goal... lettuce, spinach, zuccini, squash, cucumber, strawberries, peppers, radishes, tomatoes, and maybe a few beans.

I've got plenty of guns, although again, I'm on a base... not that it's gonna mean much after being out of power for a month... MP's gotta eat too. There is no public access to the lake, but it'll be a target sooner or later. Neighbors don't prep to any degree.

I figure that 4 weeks of 100% self-sufficiency is a good starting point to aim for. If the power/water and other services are still out after a month, then we've probably degraded to an "every man for himself" kinda thing over a large geographical area, and no amount of prepping within an urban area is gonna mean dick when your neighbors ran out of food a week ago and know you have some, and there's nowhere to drive for safety because the whole east coast is in the same boat. The worst stories of Katrina will probably never be told because one side of the story is dead and the other side will never open his mouth.

The only thing I'm really lacking on is the medical. I've got a couple first responder bags with basic airway and medium-trauma stuff... big cuts and basic broken ones can be handled. We carry an average amount of meds in the house like any family, but nothing long-term. The wife is an ER nurse (so I'm really good there), but I should have her start squirreling some IV stuff and other essentials, plus figuring out the actual "medicine" stuff pills, vitamins, etc... But again, that stuff is for REALLY LONG TERM and I'm not sure I want to live through the stone ages no matter how much ammo I have.

My first advice on prepping... DON'T ADVERTISE! I can talk **** on the internet, but I'm not gonna tell my neighbors what I'm stocking. Second... you are dead without water. Then food. Then medicine. Then toys... and by toys, I mean all the DIY stuff to make life easier for the long term. The "short-term" is a month... you should have prepackaged EVERYTHING for that long no matter what. Growing your own ****, using solar to cook, blah blah... if you are in an urban area and it gets that late in the game, you're really fubar'd.

Lots of guns and ammo goes without saying. Did I also mention basic body armor?
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I've got plenty of water. My house water comes from an artesian well which if I block the overflow puts 30 psi into the house.

I have plenty of ammo, so being armed as I trade water for canned goods might work.
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