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Old 12-16-2009, 05:34 PM
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Sounds like the MS is working. You missed a very important question. What does the SYNC light at the bottom of the dash do when cranking?
Did you check spark on both coils? Did you set the TPS? There is a TPS based flood clear that will kill fuel.
You can also use the injector test function to listen if it fires the injectors.
sync light ???? for the coils i have toyota cops i set my tps. i didnt see tps based flood any where on TS. and how do i pull that up in TS to test the injector firing.

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Originally Posted by miatamike203
sync light ???? for the coils i have toyota cops i set my tps. i didnt see tps based flood any where on TS. and how do i pull that up in TS to test the injector firing.

sorry for all the questions
Honestly Mike I think a lot of your issues are related to not reading the documentation. I know you're eager, but dude you gotta know what you're doing before you do it.

How do you have the coils wired, batch or sequential? Does the physical set up of the coils correspond with how your .msq is configured?

Sync is on the bottom of the dash, right side I think. I think it even changes between "synched" and "not synched". This will tell a lot. The loggers under diagnostics are also very helpful. You can watch the MS read the trigger wheels... or fail to read them.

Flood clear is under startup/cranking settings. Set it real high, like 90%, and make sure your TPS is under 90% both physically and electrically when cranking.

There is a test mode under advanced.

Be careful. Read, read, and read.
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Old 12-16-2009, 06:58 PM
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hmm well ill try all that once its warm out and the sun is back up but as far as the coils i wired them in as shown on the DIY AUTO TUNE wright up. i went over that wright up a few times from start to finish.
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The coils don't matter at this point, the MS is not reading RPM. Something is wrong with your cam/crank sensor connections. Either you have connected them to the wrong pins on the stock harness or you have connected the wires from the connector board to the wrong pins on the mainboard.

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105 kpa is ABOVE atmospheric - something is wrong unless you live in death valley.
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yeah but reading a few kPa high won't prevent fueling...
Jim may be correct that Mike mis-wired something, or he could have misconfigured his .msq. For instance, he could have used NA ignition settings, which absolutely won't port over to the NB.

My over-responses were intended to instill two concepts:
1) Paint the whole picture
2) Read the manual
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Originally Posted by Reverant
The coils don't matter at this point, the MS is not reading RPM. Something is wrong with your cam/crank sensor connections. Either you have connected them to the wrong pins on the stock harness or you have connected the wires from the connector board to the wrong pins on the mainboard.

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ill check them again.

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yeah but reading a few kPa high won't prevent fueling...
Jim may be correct that Mike mis-wired something, or he could have misconfigured his .msq. For instance, he could have used NA ignition settings, which absolutely won't port over to the NB.

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the map i keep basing everything off of is the one on diy wright up page for the 99-00 nb batch fire. im going to check all my wires again if that dose not fix it im going to wire it like you show on your wright up.
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Originally Posted by miatamike203
the map i keep basing everything off of is the one on diy wright up page for the 99-00 nb batch fire. im going to check all my wires again if that dose not fix it im going to wire it like you show on your wright up.
Did you re-configure for the map daddy?

Don't arbitrarily start changing things. Fix the problem. Does it have sync or not?
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i saw that light last night when i had it out of the car powered up. yes i re-configured for the mapddady as shown on diy auto tune.
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Come on Mike, what did the light say? Why do you make it so hard to help?
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sorry it said not sync but now its not on at all.
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Ben i just went over every wire, every diode and, every cap. they are all right i have pics so you guys can see and let me know if i some how missed something.
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Check your cam and crank wires. Then check them again.
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Did you adjust your dwell settings for the toyota cops? I believe they are different than the stock 99 coils. Turn over the engine and then sniff for gas at the tail pipe. If you don't smell gas, then it's not getting fuel.
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hay ben just looked again i have the ecu on my desk and powered up and TS open and it said not sync in red.
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of course it's not synched, out of the car. I wanted you to watch it when you were cranking. It's telling you if it's reading the trigger wheel or not.
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Originally Posted by Ben
of course it's not synched, out of the car. I wanted you to watch it when you were cranking. It's telling you if it's reading the trigger wheel or not.
sorry but once im home from work i will do that ill make a video too
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okay just back in and i hooked the ecu in and opened TS checked to make sure everything was right and like DIY said. so i cranked it over and the not sync light is on and red. i dont get it i went over and over and over my settings and wiring only thing i can think of is that the pin outs are wrong that diy has listed. not pointing fingers but i checked wire by wire to there pinout and everything in on the money right.
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If you think the provided pin-out is incorrect, I encourage you to open the shop manual and find the faults. However I think you'll find that to be a dead-end. It is much more likely that you have a wiring problem. Trace the cam and crank signal wires.
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hay ben i was comparing your pinout to the one diy has and there are a few thing different from yours to there's like for the ign diy has it pinned to 4g and 4h and you have it listed as 3g and 3h.
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