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Old 04-07-2008, 05:41 AM
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Shoot me a message with your e-mail address and I'll send you the file. When you get it, you should re-flash HR then open only this MSQ (don't load another existing one, you can however import your VE/timing VEX files). I went through the same ordeal as you but this MSQ got me going.

If you are running your MS standalone (not sharing the temp sensors with the stock ECU) you can use one of my HighRes images if you want:
http://ozmx5.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=19

They are 10e but should be functionally the same as 10f.

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Thanks, You got a PM
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Were you able to resolve this? I am having no luck yet.
I tried a completely fresh install on my 91 (MSPNP with the capacitor mod, 550 injectors); I used the code loading utility in the 9697 area, then loaded the 9697 basemap .msq and modified the settings by hand to match my original .msq (except for the spark and fuel tables which I imported from my original .msq). I even completely uninstalled Megatune and deleted the entire area and reinstalled the package from scratch before starting.
The car starts fine, idles great, but at 2500rpm or so the problem kicks in (not right away but after a few minutes of driving it was there and from then on).
Going back to the original firmware and .msq brings everything back to where it was before but I would love to get the HiRes code working if possible.

Hopefully yours is up and running, it will give me some additional hope (I am no MS expert but this seems like a pretty straightforward process, except that it is not working for me).
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Old 04-07-2008, 07:06 PM
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you are having the exact same issues I am. I have had no luck,...

I have used all the versions of Hires (a-f) and everything from PNP software to my own.

I have done the handwritten map and everything... no luck

One thing I want to try before I give up is to to enter the ve, afr, and adv tables by hand, but I am debating if it is worth it.
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How did you go? Any luck?
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no luck. just went back to non-highres. =(
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That's a real shame! I'll post a link to this thread on the MS Extra forum and let them know my issue was not an isolated case:

http://www.msextra.com/viewtopic.php?t=27457
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Originally Posted by 91NApeewee
no luck. just went back to non-highres. =(
No luck with me either (today I re-tried it doing a completely new install after wiping my laptop and the registry of anything Megatune related). Then I again hand loaded the settings after I loaded the firmware using the 9697 code load utility in the MSPNP installation package. Starts and idles fine, then I go to 2500 rpm and the problem is right there.

I also went back to the non-HiRes code.
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Originally Posted by aseer
No luck with me either (today I re-tried it doing a completely new install after wiping my laptop and the registry of anything Megatune related). Then I again hand loaded the settings after I loaded the firmware using the 9697 code load utility in the MSPNP installation package. Starts and idles fine, then I go to 2500 rpm and the problem is right there.

I also went back to the non-HiRes code.
I even used different computers. There must be a difference or something in the MS pnps because those tend to work. Did you build yours?
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Originally Posted by 91NApeewee
I even used different computers. There must be a difference or something in the MS pnps because those tend to work. Did you build yours?
Nope, mine is a MSPNP9093 (with the cap mod done by DIYAutotune).
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Originally Posted by aseer
No luck with me either (today I re-tried it doing a completely new install after wiping my laptop and the registry of anything Megatune related). Then I again hand loaded the settings after I loaded the firmware using the 9697 code load utility in the MSPNP installation package. Starts and idles fine, then I go to 2500 rpm and the problem is right there.

I also went back to the non-HiRes code.

I did notice that I am able to force it above 2500rpm; I see the same issue coming down from above 2500rpm as well (namely, when it hits the magic rpm range it just starts acting like it is being limited).
I think this is consistent behavior to what others have described.
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Old 04-10-2008, 09:12 PM
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Yep. I could force it past as well, however it was to harsh to do it while driving.
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Originally Posted by 91NApeewee
Yep. I could force it past as well, however it was to harsh to do it while driving.
I took a look at the thread that Saboteur linked to earlier in this thread - they seem motivated to fix the issue, that is great. (I am new to this platform and forums but that is a great response)
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Old 04-11-2008, 05:06 PM
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So I turned off the CLT/IAT related air density as suggested in the other forum. The 2500rpm stutter went away. Looks like folk are on the right track.

This is a good community, I am impressed.
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Originally Posted by Keithg
Latest Version: http://ys3al35l.googlepages.com/hr_10g.zip

(edit 20080411 - HR_10g has a fix for a problem that 4G63 owners saw as a 'rev limit' at 2500 rpm. It was tied to Air density correction somehow. It has been fixed in HR_10g)
Awesome!
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I've updated the MX-5 HighRes images page with the new 10g firmware:
http://ozmx5.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=19

Installation instructions can be found here:
http://ozmx5.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=13
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Originally Posted by saboteur
I've updated the MX-5 HighRes images page with the new 10g firmware:
http://ozmx5.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=19

Installation instructions can be found here:
http://ozmx5.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=13

damn you now I am gonna have to try this again .

but really, thanks saboteur for posting it on MSExtra and rolling the stuff all together to make it easy.
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Old 04-12-2008, 02:32 AM
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The New Version of the HighRes is wonderful! The limit is gone and wow, that resolution makes a difference, especially at idle
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Glad to hear that issue is resolved. Always nice when a real fix to a problem is created instead of just finding quick work arounds that don't always work for everyone. Improved idle and improved economy should be the biggest aspects of Hi-Res that you can really appreciate.
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