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Old 02-23-2013, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Amellrotts
yes, for my 99
The Basic MS3 doesn't support it out of the box. If you want it, we need to discuss about it as it requires adding an extra circuit to handle the additional wheel speed sensor.
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I just realized that.. Sorry for jumping the gun.
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what does it cost? And how does it work, cutting fuel I assume?
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It can retard timing, cut the ignition, remove boost, or add fuel.
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Nice, sign me up! Lets ad it to my MS3. Thank you!
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Originally Posted by Reverant
The Basic MS3 doesn't support it out of the box. If you want it, we need to discuss about it as it requires adding an extra circuit to handle the additional wheel speed sensor.
Your ecu comparison sheet says that the Basic MS3 does have traction control. Does it at least support a limited version of traction control that doesn't use two VSS and instead detects abnormal acceleration?

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I believe it is an option, there is an extra circuit to be installed is my understanding....
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Originally Posted by Amellrotts
I believe it is an option, there is an extra circuit to be installed is my understanding....
Read the spreadsheet (MS Labs ECU Comparison Sheet), it doesn't say it is an option. But it clearly states that the RTC and knock are options.

Not that it matters since I already have mine.
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I am just telling you what he has said to me in emails. He is building mine now, in fact it ships Monday.....I HOPE!
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waiting for the day i get the wonderful PM that mine is being made/shipped.
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Originally Posted by VanMSM
Read the spreadsheet (MS Labs ECU Comparison Sheet), it doesn't say it is an option. But it clearly states that the RTC and knock are options.

Not that it matters since I already have mine.
Traction control is available on yours, as a pure software function (RPM-based). I generally recommend using a second speed sensor for traction control.
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Originally Posted by Reverant
Traction control is available on yours, as a pure software function (RPM-based). I generally recommend using a second speed sensor for traction control.
Thanks for the clarification Dimitris! Traction control as a pure software function of rpm is all I expected. It's certainly better than nothing.
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Lets stir up the pot a bit... new version for the 01-05 and MSM:



Feature set is the same, knock/RTC are now standard. $849 plus shipping.

99-00 and more to follow.

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Yummy. Nice, will the Enhanced Units use the same design?
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Correct. Same basic architecture, footprint and enclosure. There's a DB37 on the back for additional IO, a serial port and the MAP sensor.
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So when can I expect mine?
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USB is WINNING!

Why DB37? Convenience?
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Originally Posted by EO2K
USB is WINNING!
welcome to every MS3 since 2010!



Why DB37? Convenience?
37 pins to input/output greatness
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I think the new slimmer case with pnp plug right on the side of it is pretty winning.

Now to fit these into OEM cases for ultra-winning
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Originally Posted by Reverant
Lets stir up the pot a bit... new version for the 01-05 and MSM:



Feature set is the same, knock/RTC are now standard. $799 plus shipping.

99-00 and more to follow.

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ****.
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