Getting around 200rwhp to 230rwhp?
03-17-2017, 01:53 PM
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I don't know CDN law, but I have heard of people shipping US products to a place close to the border (or in your case across the straight) and picking it up to bring home themselves to save a good bit of money. I'm not Canadian, and I don't know anything about bringing stuff from the US, but that could be an option.
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03-17-2017, 10:27 PM
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I will say, whether its by coincidence or planned, that 1500$ for a hotside kit is an extremely good idea. It's a big enough kit where it reduces individual purchasing of items opposed to say just a manifold+ down pipe, but it's price low enough where people who want to turbocharge their cars, while on a budget, won't be afraid of an upfront cost that big.
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03-18-2017, 03:18 AM
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I don't know CDN law, but I have heard of people shipping US products to a place close to the border (or in your case across the straight) and picking it up to bring home themselves to save a good bit of money. I'm not Canadian, and I don't know anything about bringing stuff from the US, but that could be an option.
Thank you though!
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03-20-2017, 09:27 AM
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It's not smuggling, it's avoiding the huge, marked-up brokerage fees and the cut UPS/USPS likes to take from those fees. You still declare it and pay tax, but it's cheaper.
Also, Our Canadian Peso is not the same as the great big US Doll-Hair you guys have.. Everything americano is super expensive right now.
I'm even afraid to order an americano at starbucks it's so bad.
Also, Our Canadian Peso is not the same as the great big US Doll-Hair you guys have.. Everything americano is super expensive right now.
I'm even afraid to order an americano at starbucks it's so bad.
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03-20-2017, 11:25 AM
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It's not smuggling, it's avoiding the huge, marked-up brokerage fees and the cut UPS/USPS likes to take from those fees. You still declare it and pay tax, but it's cheaper.
Also, Our Canadian Peso is not the same as the great big US Doll-Hair you guys have.. Everything americano is super expensive right now.
I'm even afraid to order an americano at starbucks it's so bad.
Also, Our Canadian Peso is not the same as the great big US Doll-Hair you guys have.. Everything americano is super expensive right now.
I'm even afraid to order an americano at starbucks it's so bad.
UPS and the "brokerage fees"really screw us over.
Anything with not made in the USA gets another big stupid tax on it.
We are the USA's largest single supplier of oil, yet our fearless leader just cut our throats and basically shut down that entire industry.
Despite our otherwise solid economy our dollar followed suit.
I think my son said Exidas, with the coax mounts direct shipped the old school way are $3500.00 landed here.
I asked if Emilio was slipping in a few of those amazing California gummy bears, alas the answer was no!
Sigh!
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03-20-2017, 11:25 AM
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I will say, whether its by coincidence or planned, that 1500$ for a hotside kit is an extremely good idea. It's a big enough kit where it reduces individual purchasing of items opposed to say just a manifold+ down pipe, but it's price low enough where people who want to turbocharge their cars, while on a budget, won't be afraid of an upfront cost that big.
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03-20-2017, 11:36 AM
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Shuiend,
I was on ebay last night and spotted a $99.00 tubular manifold....Those things must last all of 5 minutes.
I looked around and it seems to be how the ebay elcheapo kits are going now.....there are going to make a lot of sad customers.
I was on ebay last night and spotted a $99.00 tubular manifold....Those things must last all of 5 minutes.
I looked around and it seems to be how the ebay elcheapo kits are going now.....there are going to make a lot of sad customers.
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03-20-2017, 11:45 AM
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Thats how the eBay turbo setups for the miata have always been. Cheap pieces of **** with manifolds made with metal that is to thin to actually last. The only company that makes something somewhat ok is the newer CXRacing kit, but it needs a lot of work to even get it close. The goal was to produce something that is good for the stock motor, be reliable on the street, and make it so you are not going back later to add on exhaust parts.
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03-23-2017, 11:26 PM
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After searching around a bit more, I think I'm going to go with either the Voodoo II or MKTurbo if I decide to turbo the Miata. Reason being because I'm not looking to go too crazy, just want a little extra umph. I know I originally said I wanted around 200 to 230whp, but honestly, I'd be fine with even 150 to 190whp. If I went with the MKTurbo setup, what else would I need?
Hmm...or maybe a supercharger...
Hmm...or maybe a supercharger...
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03-23-2017, 11:54 PM
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After searching around a bit more, I think I'm going to go with either the Voodoo II or MKTurbo if I decide to turbo the Miata. Reason being because I'm not looking to go too crazy, just want a little extra umph. I know I originally said I wanted around 200 to 230whp, but honestly, I'd be fine with even 150 to 190whp. If I went with the MKTurbo setup, what else would I need?
I bought a Voodoo II kit to get started and (just like everyone here told me) the Voodoo piggyback ECU sucked. My 1.8 on stock injectors pulled 174WHP on the dyno. The great thing about the kit is that the parts are all high quality, same stuff that's in the FMII kit minus a couple things. If I had it to do over again I would have bought the FMII no-electronics kit AFTER I'd learned how to tune a standalone. I'm learning that now aand it's kind of been a steep learning curve for me, and now it's getting warmer outside and I'm ready to riiiide but I can't. My $.02
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03-24-2017, 12:26 AM
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Around here man you should always pause before asking anything resembling "what would I need?" And ask yourself, "Have I searched for this answer on my own?"
I bought a Voodoo II kit to get started and (just like everyone here told me) the Voodoo piggyback ECU sucked. My 1.8 on stock injectors pulled 174WHP on the dyno. The great thing about the kit is that the parts are all high quality, same stuff that's in the FMII kit minus a couple things. If I had it to do over again I would have bought the FMII no-electronics kit AFTER I'd learned how to tune a standalone. I'm learning that now aand it's kind of been a steep learning curve for me, and now it's getting warmer outside and I'm ready to riiiide but I can't. My $.02
I bought a Voodoo II kit to get started and (just like everyone here told me) the Voodoo piggyback ECU sucked. My 1.8 on stock injectors pulled 174WHP on the dyno. The great thing about the kit is that the parts are all high quality, same stuff that's in the FMII kit minus a couple things. If I had it to do over again I would have bought the FMII no-electronics kit AFTER I'd learned how to tune a standalone. I'm learning that now aand it's kind of been a steep learning curve for me, and now it's getting warmer outside and I'm ready to riiiide but I can't. My $.02
Oh, how was it having a 174whp miata?
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03-24-2017, 12:36 AM
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It was not always bad, just not nearly as smooth as I hoped it would be. My biggest problem with it was that I couldn't get it to idle properly on startup. It would lean out multiple times for the first 69 seconds and no amount of fiddling with the few controls it has would amount to much. Also, about every 10th or 12th time I fired it up, it just wouldnt work, so when i went into boost it wouldn't add fuel, which is obviously not a good thing. Sometimes I'd be driving down the road and would just kill the engine and restart it and it would work fine again. And believe me, I went through the wiring a hundred times to make sure it wasn't user error, and even had a tuning shop go over everything to make sure it wasn't my fault.
Apart from that, 174whp is fun in a Miata. But not as much fun as 275whp.
Apart from that, 174whp is fun in a Miata. But not as much fun as 275whp.
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03-24-2017, 12:49 AM
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It was not always bad, just not nearly as smooth as I hoped it would be. My biggest problem with it was that I couldn't get it to idle properly on startup. It would lean out multiple times for the first 69 seconds and no amount of fiddling with the few controls it has would amount to much. Also, about every 10th or 12th time I fired it up, it just wouldnt work, so when i went into boost it wouldn't add fuel, which is obviously not a good thing. Sometimes I'd be driving down the road and would just kill the engine and restart it and it would work fine again. And believe me, I went through the wiring a hundred times to make sure it wasn't user error, and even had a tuning shop go over everything to make sure it wasn't my fault.
Apart from that, 174whp is fun in a Miata. But not as much fun as 275whp.
Apart from that, 174whp is fun in a Miata. But not as much fun as 275whp.
[QUOTE =MiataMan00;1400926]make I'm spoiled. But I'm not sure I could live with a sub 200whp miata.[/QUOTE]
I think you may be a little spoiled lol.
Every car I've had so far has had below 200whp...well, except for my BMW 328xi, that had somewhere in the 200+whp, but then again the car was heavy...and automatic. 
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03-24-2017, 07:49 AM
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I'm not a big tech guy like a lot of the guys on here but I will share my experience.
When I bought my 2005 NB2 it already had a Voodoo II kit on it with Borla muffler and stock mid pipe.
I didn't have it on a dyno with that setup but I'd guess it was in the 170-180whp range.
I know a lot of guys dog the Voodoo II box as being a band aid and I'm not trying to argue with that, but if it's a street car and 150-170whp are you goals the Voodoo II kit is excellent.
If I didn't know it was an aftermarket kit I would have sworn it was oem. My car ran perfectly. Perfect idle, smooth power delivery and no issues under any load or with A/C on.
I have since upgraded to full FMII with Hydra 2.7 but if I wasn't looking for more power I would have left the Voodoo II and been happy.
When I bought my 2005 NB2 it already had a Voodoo II kit on it with Borla muffler and stock mid pipe.
I didn't have it on a dyno with that setup but I'd guess it was in the 170-180whp range.
I know a lot of guys dog the Voodoo II box as being a band aid and I'm not trying to argue with that, but if it's a street car and 150-170whp are you goals the Voodoo II kit is excellent.
If I didn't know it was an aftermarket kit I would have sworn it was oem. My car ran perfectly. Perfect idle, smooth power delivery and no issues under any load or with A/C on.
I have since upgraded to full FMII with Hydra 2.7 but if I wasn't looking for more power I would have left the Voodoo II and been happy.
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