Prefabbed Turbo Kits A place to discuss prefabricated turbo kits on the market

wastegate signal question

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-03-2007, 03:00 PM
  #1  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
devin mac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: MA
Posts: 881
Total Cats: 4
Default wastegate signal question

so, i know the greddy wastegate has a reputation of dropping boost in the upper RPM ranges. now, i thought i read somewhere that it could potentially be attributed to the location of that nipple on the compressor housing that is used as a signal line. idea being that it's not in an ideal place to be used as a signal line.

would plugging that nipple and taking a vac signal from somewhere else help the issue, potentially?
devin mac is offline  
Old 10-03-2007, 03:04 PM
  #2  
Boost Czar
iTrader: (62)
 
Braineack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 79,494
Total Cats: 4,080
Default

no, it has everything to do with the weak diaphragm.

moving it to the IM might help, but i doubt it will do anything. Your biggest allie in the battle for cheap fixes will be a helper spring. This will provide more preload on the wastegate so it doesn't get blasted open and over-powered. It should fight spikes and dropping boost at redline.
Braineack is offline  
Old 10-04-2007, 09:37 AM
  #3  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
devin mac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: MA
Posts: 881
Total Cats: 4
Default

sounds good. i'll have to rig one of those up once i have better injectors and the clutch in the car. for now i think i'm happy enough to drive it aorund as-is for awhile before it goes away for the winter.
devin mac is offline  
Old 10-08-2007, 12:44 PM
  #4  
Newb
 
trackfiend's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Texas
Posts: 33
Total Cats: 0
Default

Is it possible to change out the diaphragm? How does the helper spring mount and what spring is best to use?
trackfiend is offline  
Old 10-08-2007, 12:50 PM
  #5  
Junior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
marty_uiuc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: illinoisssss
Posts: 123
Total Cats: 0
Default

you can take apart the actuator and replace the internal spring with something stiffer if you don't want to install a helper spring. i have tried doing this before to a different actuator (actually, i installed a softer spring because i wanted less boost) and they are designed in very similar ways. it is a bit of a pain because once you get the canister apart you have to worry about sealing it back up.

a helper spring would be much easier. to install it, all you need to do is put the spring in such a location that it helps to hold the wastegate flapper shut.
marty_uiuc is offline  
Old 10-08-2007, 01:07 PM
  #6  
Ben
Supporting Vendor
iTrader: (33)
 
Ben's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: atlanta-ish
Posts: 12,659
Total Cats: 134
Default

Originally Posted by devin mac
would plugging that nipple and taking a vac signal from somewhere else help the issue, potentially?
I've been told that plugging the existing souce and adding a new source further towards the compressor outlet will absolutely help stabilize boost control. I was told this by the dyno operator at a Subie dealer, who is pretty damn familliar with Mitsu turbos.

You don't want to source from the IM because then your actuator sees both boost and vac, which will shorten it's life.
__________________
Chief of Floor Sweeping, DIYAutoTune.com & AMP EFI
Crew Chief, Car Owner & Least Valuable Driver, HongNorrthRacing

91 Turbo | 10AE Turbo | 01 Track Rat | #323 Mazda Champcar

Originally Posted by concealer404
Buy an MSPNP Pro, you'll feel better.
Ben is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
bigmackloud
Miata parts for sale/trade
19
01-08-2021 11:24 AM
Corky Bell
Prefabbed Turbo Kits
18
11-22-2016 09:01 PM
itsMikey
MSPNP
3
09-28-2015 06:40 AM



Quick Reply: wastegate signal question



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:04 PM.