Suspension: When to adjust what?
#41
This feels applicable to my thread. Man, I'm getting to a point where sometimes I feel like I'm overdriving when I do stuff like this, but people like you agree it's faster. I do something similar at Hallett at #1 and #5, MSR-C CW through the triple apex, and now MSRH Sugar and Spice. This is specifically pertinent to Hallett where some of the DFW crew attempted to give me advice, while they're 5-seconds behind of course.
If you geek out and datalog a few approaches for tracks you keep returning too, it will pay off.
#43
BTW on the Morgans noted in the newsletter…these are pretty cool old cars. They are not much different from when they started being made countless decades ago. A frame partially made of ash…yes…the *wood*. The front suspension has the upright slide up and down on a pillar. Seriously. There are motorcycle engined thru V8 versions, three and four wheels, etc. Ahh the British…(I'm half Brit).
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BTW on the Morgans noted in the newsletter…these are pretty cool old cars. They are not much different from when they started being made countless decades ago. A frame partially made of ash…yes…the *wood*. The front suspension has the upright slide up and down on a pillar. Seriously.
#47
We get it, and that's why I have a Wilwood prop valve that I adjust regularly. I wish it had notches so I could dial in the settings for track conditions like I do for shocks.
AThere comes a point where someone is so annoyingly persistent and unaffected by criticism that we almost welcome you. "Almost" of course.
AThere comes a point where someone is so annoyingly persistent and unaffected by criticism that we almost welcome you. "Almost" of course.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...1&d=1298665484
On wood…note that some racecars deliberately use it on their undersides (even F1) as a wear surface for track/curb contact or due to rules. It's also used as a core between composite panels in other cases. Sort of like using styrofoam as a spacer.
#49
You don't have to freak out about it. It's just basic stuff that is unfamiliar to some folks. Some noobs to track days think they have to *lower* tire pressures for instance. If you read my post, you'll note that it was noted as it IS in fact relevant. I didn't make a big deal about it.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...1&d=1298665484
On wood…note that some racecars deliberately use it on their undersides (even F1) as a wear surface for track/curb contact or due to rules. It's also used as a core between composite panels in other cases. Sort of like using styrofoam as a spacer.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...1&d=1298665484
On wood…note that some racecars deliberately use it on their undersides (even F1) as a wear surface for track/curb contact or due to rules. It's also used as a core between composite panels in other cases. Sort of like using styrofoam as a spacer.
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It's not that you're entirely full of ****. It's that you come off as a self important ****.
#50
My datalogging group buy wasn't as successful as I had hoped (no doubt, due to forum ignorance and prejudice against those of us who use science), but I'm curious:
Would anybody be interested if I opened a group buy on wooden connecting rods (maple, I'm thinking), and possibly wooden anti-sway bars (most likely mahogany)? F1 teams use these materials, you know -- and it's a renewable resource, which is also a scientific thing.
Also in the works: data-logs (by which, I mean, actual logs).
Would anybody be interested if I opened a group buy on wooden connecting rods (maple, I'm thinking), and possibly wooden anti-sway bars (most likely mahogany)? F1 teams use these materials, you know -- and it's a renewable resource, which is also a scientific thing.
Also in the works: data-logs (by which, I mean, actual logs).
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You don't have to freak out about it. It's just basic stuff that is unfamiliar to some folks. Some noobs to track days think they have to *lower* tire pressures for instance. If you read my post, you'll note that it was noted as it IS in fact relevant. I didn't make a big deal about it.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...1&d=1298665484
On wood…note that some racecars deliberately use it on their undersides (even F1) as a wear surface for track/curb contact or due to rules. It's also used as a core between composite panels in other cases. Sort of like using styrofoam as a spacer.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...1&d=1298665484
On wood…note that some racecars deliberately use it on their undersides (even F1) as a wear surface for track/curb contact or due to rules. It's also used as a core between composite panels in other cases. Sort of like using styrofoam as a spacer.
#54
as far as which way to go with the ****. it has been my understanding that the softest setting that still controls or stops unwanted or excess motion of the springs, gives you the most "mechanical" grip. where would you want it stiffer, theoretically giving you slightly less grip? where there are alot of high speed corners and the car feels too "sensitive" or unstable at high speed. in those cases, a little stiffer setting may help keep the car more stable, easier to drive, which in turns inspires confidence, which in turn could lead to faster lap times. some cars are fast, fun and easy to drive. some cars are just fast, which would you wanna drive? an extreme example of this is jakes s2k with big sticky tires and stock shocks/sways, it's not a good match. the grippy tires overwhelm the suspensions spring rates and valving. it's nervous handling, really touchy on turn in, and a little abrupt at the limit. it's fast, but it's a handful and nerve racking to drive (especially since it's not my car). his dad's miata on the other hand, has slightly less grippy tires, but the shocks/spring combo work well with the level of grip the tires provide. it turns in well, not spooky or overly sensitive, not too much body roll, easy to handle, smooth at the limit of grip, not choppy like the s2k. basically, like i've said with a lot of other stuff before, you have to experiment, and go with what feels comfortable to you. you went to hhr last week? why didn't you try different settings? it wasn't a race event. you can make 2-3 adjustments per session if you hurry or have a buddy change them in the hot pit lane. it only takes a few laps to see what difference was made.
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