Leafy

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Where are you seeing that? They only make up to a 205 wide in the 15". And those are stupid because they have the dual compound tread like all the sizes that arent the 195-15. The 195-15 toyo is special because you can shave them to an inch of their lives which makes them not feel like snow tires and over heat instantly. Full thread R1R's in anything but the rain are a waste of your life.

Mobius

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Not sure what you mean by "where" - the link is to Tire Rack. Toyo does indeed make a 225/45R15 R1R. Unless Tire Rack is selling tires that don't exist.

Leafy

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Forgot that when on the actual page of the tire it doesnt show in the sizes list. But still, you cant shave it, so its worthless for anything but a rain tire.

GAMO

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Chances are most likely against me that it's the same compound as the 195, so I'm going to be sticking with the R-S3.

Mobius

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So here's a question. For a 15x8 wheel (6UL +36 to be specific), 140+ treadwear, what would you use for a wet track tire / wet + cool weather autocross tire? The 195 toyo is the shiznit, there is no doubt. But I haven't found much information on people stretching them a bit onto the 8's. This tire will not be shaved.

So: 195 R1R?
205/50 R1R?
205/50 Star Spec?

or other. The Continental DW isn't offered in a 15" size or I'd probably go with it.

To reiterate, this is not for dry or hot use. This is for wet track, wet autocross, and coldish/cool autocross.

Norms

In terms of wet track/autox I've actually had a lot of great luck with my RS3s--not nearly as responsive as when it's hot and sticky out, but they've been great in the rain. However in terms of rain performance, star specs have been phoenomenal in the rain phenomenal. Also stay away from the Kuhmo XS's though--had a terrible experience with those in the rain, good god.

Rocwandrer

205 star spec is the winner if you add cost and tread life into the equation. If not, you are probably at 195 toyo. I've seen it done on the 15x8, and I've heard claims it is faster when stretched, but I'm guessing that much stretch is compensating for not enough static camber if it is faster.

edough

205 dunlop direzzas. Need more grip though.

Rocwandrer

non star spec direzzas suck in the wet....

jm1na says what

Last time I bought track tires about 18-20 months ago, the Dunlop Direzza Sport Z1 Star Spec was the new hotness - great grip, took more heat cycles before getting too hard, didn't get too greasy in the hot (even summer in Phoenix), wet performance was good, and overall wear is good considering the crazy grip for a street tire.

Is it still the creame of the price range for the 16" wheeled track day enthusiast?

edit: should add what the thread subject asks for: what am I using and what have I used?

-currently 205/55 R16 Star Specs. They are too tall, I could only source the 55's at the time and have suffered from having to raise my ride height to prevent fender liner rubbing. Lame. However, besides the nose pointing up a bit more than I'd like, the tires have excelled at everything I've thrown at them: dozen track days in AZ and CA, road trips up and down the coast, and camping deep out on forest service roads. They still have life left in them and I'll try another track day or two with them before either buying new 16" tires - or biting the bullet and finally buying 15" 6ULs and appropriate full on R-compound track day tires - which is a whole other ball of wax because I feel I need to improve my driving skill quite a bit more before increasing grip and numbing my edge-of-traction senses while learning some new tracks. Basically I hope I can wring out more fun on street tires and save that OMG R-compound bliss for when I'm actually timing laps in TT versus just lapping in HPDE.

-in the past I've been a huge Azenis fan, but that was before I did road course track days. They excelled (both old and new compounds) in daily driving, bombing around public roads, and autox. Seemed the heat cycles from weekend-long track events got them hard and/or greasy faster than their tread wore.

marcoSTEEZ

I've had my Federal 595 Rs-R's for about ~5k miles. I used them in an autocross back in May with a Porsche club here in FL. These have been my first set of lower treadwear (140), UHP tire. In my opinion, they did awesome. Good grip when coldish/few runs. Really amazing grip when heat up after 4 runs. Very predictable feel. They heated up well and didnt get greasy or useless after heated up hard. Granted autocross is relatively easy on tires. I cant wait to drive Sebring in October for a NASA hpde. I will actually get to put the car and specifically the rubber at the limits.

Over all, I would recommend highly. You literally cant find a lower priced 140UHP tire. I paid $71 per tire on onlinetires.com

stuiephoto

225/45 nt-01's have a 100 dollar rebate in the ebay store of discount tire direct.

4 New 225 45 15 Nitto NT 01 45R15 R15 45R Tires | eBay

olderguy

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Rumor from a good source that Hankook is going to increase treadwear on RS3's from 140 to 200.

ZX-Tex

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Thanks for posting that.

KipCantDrift

I use Falken 912 in 195/50/15 for my front tires and Primewell pz900 for rears. Same size.

btothefnrock

I'm still on 195/50/15 R1Rs from last season- even at 1/3 tread, I was able to get FTD and 2nd PAX in the wet at the last BRR-SCCA autocross. Personally, I like the way these drive over all the competitors tires (haven't driven rivals yet, will at the NJ ProSolo)

Tip14

Falken 512's I'm not a tire expert nor do I claim to be so all I can say is that they feel good for a DD car which is my miata, and they seem good in the rain. I got them from discount tire 4 months ago when my old tires wouldn't pass inspection. Paid $580 for all 4 out the door. I wish I could rate them, but I have never had a really expensive set of tires so I have nothing to compare them to..

Rocwandrer

Those were discontinued years ago. You overpaid compared to the regular pricing back before they were discontinued, depending on the size. Consumer reports rated those a best buy. A good cheap tire for those who only care a little more than the average person about performance. You can autocross on those and they won't fall apart.

Tip14

I think $580 is what I paid, but it might have been less. Either way seems like I probably got ripped on them lol. But I needed tires and had to use the awesome discount tire card to pay them off because I was currently unemployed so yea. I had a guy buy some old parts off me weeks ago, and he offered me $400 for my rims and tires, and his stock 15s from a 99. Btw he wanted my stock swish wheels

swimming108

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who has used the 225/45/15 Hankook Z214 C71 in an autox setting? what impressions did you walk away with? How would you compare them to the NT-01 and A6?