949Racing SuperMiata Tecna Coilover
11-22-2013, 09:47 PM
#81
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In for NC fitment. There's a pretty big hole in the mid range save Tein. $2700 Ohlin or go home.
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11-23-2013, 07:51 AM
#82
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Im just glad someone is still making new products for an almost 25 year old car .
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11-25-2013, 12:23 AM
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Hmm, Plano Texas, eh? Well I'll be a tester for you, that's not too far away for me haha
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11-25-2013, 09:28 PM
#88
How will these pair with Flying Miata Front and Rear Sways? I know FM is competition, but the parts are already on my car, and I'd rather keep them if they will compliment this setup well.
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11-26-2013, 03:03 AM
#89
The way I see it is if you have FM sways you don't really care about performance anyway. They'll be fine.
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11-26-2013, 03:33 AM
#90
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All to true.
Sway-bars should be used to fine tune everything after you pick the correct spring rates for your application.
If you try to arrange the setup around the shitty ******* sway-bar set you picked, you need to be ******* shot.
I tried the tuning method for keeping a bigger than needed rear swaybar and it completely sucked.
I was much better off ditching that stupid 15.87mm FM rear bar and tuning the suspension correctly with springs and proper shock first and sway-bars last.
Back on topic: Looking forward to driving on these "tecna" shocks. Can in no way be worse then the Vmaxx and AFCO crap I've driven on.
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11-26-2013, 03:17 PM
#91
My simple answer: no, it's impossible
The FM rear bar is too large for anything short of a slick tires, mega downforce car over about 300whp. Anything short of that and you'll want a 14mm rear bar for track use. Stock 11mm or 12mm rear bar for autocross.
The front FM bar is too small for use with anything at or below 200 treadwear. It is however, a nice option for the drive focused on ride quality over bad roads with narrow high treadwear (> 300) rated tires and soft suspension. I frequently recommend the FM front 24mm or OEM NB 22mm bar for those daiy driven, non performance oriented builds.
As the tecna are really focused on ride quality, I'd suggest keeping the small-ish FM front bar and putting the OEM rear bar back on. The tecna spring rates are optimized for 19-24mm front sway bars mated with OEM 11-14mm rears.
For high performance oriented use, don't buy tecnas, ditch both FM bars for a RB 1.125 front, 14mm mazda rear and either Tein Street Flex or if your budgets allows, Xidas.
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11-26-2013, 03:51 PM
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I sincerely appreciate the fact that you are very forthcoming about your product, and that you do not try to present it as an end-all for all suspension issues.
Honesty does matter.
Honesty does matter.
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11-27-2013, 11:50 AM
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Emilio can I make a suggestion? The goal of these coilovers is an OTS "street" replacment coilover. Knowing who your working with on these I am of the understanding that you can spec different valving and spring rates. You could also offer the "All of it, Tecna HPDE starter kit"
Tecna coilovers 550/325, stage 1 brake kit with XP10/8 pre-bedded, SuperMiata sway kit for 1899.00 only option is rollbar for 2349.00. Recomended for 200 treadware or higher street tires. When the person moves up through the HPDE ranks and wants to run say TT with slicks they would just need to swap in some Xida's with higher rates and sell off there Tecna's. You could have the coilovers pre setup to the correct height/corner balance so all the dummy has to do is bolt them in and get alignment. The average Joe could swipe his credit card, items delivered 4 days later, spend Saturday in his garage with hand tools, and have a track ready car. These wouldn't compete with the Xida line because the only way you can get them is with the whole 1899.00 order, the rates/valving is too soft for a serious track day enthusiast/competitor on slicks, no dampening adjustment for rain/conditions.
Benefits
Extra $200 Profit on Track Tecna HPDE kit
One stop shop
Brand loyalty
Forum members can now answer any newb miata guy's track day questions with a link to 949racing.com's HPDE starter kit
I would also suggest detailed instructions for the buyer and alignment shop. I would also run this in Miata Challange and win street class. If a potential customer can take a stone stock miata, order your kit, and have the potential to be competitive on track you would have a win. Also a newb would not have the chance to screw anything up because you picked all the parts for him. The only thing close to this has users who failed to complete their "race" giving testimonials and has no track data to back up anything. This would seriously cut out the need for a miata newb to spend days reading posts and hearing suggestions from questionable sources. This is the definition of the easy button.
Tecna coilovers 550/325, stage 1 brake kit with XP10/8 pre-bedded, SuperMiata sway kit for 1899.00 only option is rollbar for 2349.00. Recomended for 200 treadware or higher street tires. When the person moves up through the HPDE ranks and wants to run say TT with slicks they would just need to swap in some Xida's with higher rates and sell off there Tecna's. You could have the coilovers pre setup to the correct height/corner balance so all the dummy has to do is bolt them in and get alignment. The average Joe could swipe his credit card, items delivered 4 days later, spend Saturday in his garage with hand tools, and have a track ready car. These wouldn't compete with the Xida line because the only way you can get them is with the whole 1899.00 order, the rates/valving is too soft for a serious track day enthusiast/competitor on slicks, no dampening adjustment for rain/conditions.
Benefits
Extra $200 Profit on Track Tecna HPDE kit
One stop shop
Brand loyalty
Forum members can now answer any newb miata guy's track day questions with a link to 949racing.com's HPDE starter kit
I would also suggest detailed instructions for the buyer and alignment shop. I would also run this in Miata Challange and win street class. If a potential customer can take a stone stock miata, order your kit, and have the potential to be competitive on track you would have a win. Also a newb would not have the chance to screw anything up because you picked all the parts for him. The only thing close to this has users who failed to complete their "race" giving testimonials and has no track data to back up anything. This would seriously cut out the need for a miata newb to spend days reading posts and hearing suggestions from questionable sources. This is the definition of the easy button.
Last edited by jacob300zx; 11-27-2013 at 12:18 PM.
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11-27-2013, 12:16 PM
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They don't pay me for my looks if Emilio is ever hiring for sales I'm on the next plane out for an interview.
if Emilio is ever hiring for sales I'm on the next plane out for an interview.
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11-27-2013, 01:00 PM
#100
I think Jake has a great idea: to share applications of what people would use these Tecnas for.
I personally want these to put on my MSM to get rid of the retardedly bouncy stock ride. I would be interested in the coilovers and whatever sway bar set up I would need to make it a fun DD/highway machine. Maybe that will help the decision on final valving and spring rates?
I personally want these to put on my MSM to get rid of the retardedly bouncy stock ride. I would be interested in the coilovers and whatever sway bar set up I would need to make it a fun DD/highway machine. Maybe that will help the decision on final valving and spring rates?
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