Cookie Monster

The reason I ask is because someone nearby is sellig them for $80.

Stealth97

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No personal experince with them, but I never heard a good review of them.

Braineack

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spring rates?

chicksdigmiatas

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If they came with the "advanced" handling kit. They blow ***. You will be on your bumpstops in no time. Mine went in the trash. Too low and too soft, like s techs.

mgeoffriau

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Terrible, don't bother. Cut your stock springs, it can't be any worse.

chicksdigmiatas

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Cut stockers are better.

Braineack

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at least when you cut them the spring rates increase!

Cookie Monster

Good thing I thought to ask first eh? I have 202,000 miles on the stock springs and around 100,000 on the stiffer bilstien shocks. I'd say it's time to replace those things. My friend has red KYB 8 way adjustable shocks and some black lowering springs with Flyin' Miata top hats in the rear. His car stays realy flat and it's still nice of most bumps. I'm thinking he's got Eibach springs? IDK.

So I was thinking of buying either new OEM springs or something slightly lower around an inch or so and some Koni yellows or the KYB red adjustables I don't remember the model lol AGX I think? Nothing insane but no cheap performance either. What's a good spring for either of these shocks? I already have RB anti-sway bars front and rear and 'ok' Dunlop DZ101 tires.

Braineack

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for the price the FM springs are great.

alik

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Ugh. I already have a headache from all this, but, let's see if we can make heads or tails.

What are your goals for the car?
Autox beastie? Track beater? Canyon carver? Street cruiser?

There's a ton of info m.net. Just follow the links in my sig.
Ask an intelligent question, and I'll try to help you.
**** me off, and I'll sic hustler on you.

chicksdigmiatas

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Step 1 remove rear sway so car isn't *** happy.
Step 2 Better dampers.

I liked the feel of stock springs with good dampers. I actually got shocks and springs off a wrecked MSM and it owns the tokicos and ghey springs, and tokicos and stock springs. I did fairly decent in sts with that set up on star specs. However, now that i am not in a queerby class anymore, i must get real suspension and buy slicks.

Cookie Monster

Well I mostly tear up the canyons and sometimes road coarse and autocross. It gets lots of daily driving but the roads here are smooth in most areas. The canyon roads have a lot of rough worn pavement and they use tar to seal the cracks so there's a hole lot of small clickity clack bumps in the twisties.

I always thought that removing the rear sway bar was only used for autocross? I will have to do some more searching I think.

alik

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Depends on your budget, I'd start with at least FM Stage 1 kit with FM 1" front sway.
If you end up too low, I have FCM spring risers, that'll bring you back up 0.5".
Get FCM goodies. They're worth it.

On the higher side, you have a selection of coilovers, but, they're well above $1500 (good ones).

Cookie Monster

Any thoughts of Flyin' Miata's new V-Maxx coilovers? I don't think they'll be out until at least the end of may. I wonder if it's worth the wait.

lordrigamus

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I can't stand mine. A little over a year and they're already sagging. Spongy as hell even for sport springs.

Tokicos for the fail.

Cookie Monster

What I find interesting is the tokico springs suck yet the tokico Illumina strut/shocks are great? I've heard that tokico shocks leak and or fail often.

MartinezA92

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Mine failed within 10k. Don't know how normal that is, but I got them warrantied and sold them for some revalved bilsteins.

If you get them from FM and they fail, they'll replace them free of charge.

alik

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Illuminas are great shocks. They're just not performance shocks. Not in a true sense.
Konis stand to track abuse a little better, but, they will too perish given enough time.

Bilstein, Tein, Ohlins, that's the stuff for continuous pounding on the berms.
As far as Tokico springs, they simple fall under "lowering springs are horrible crap" fact.

alik

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Stop guessing, and focus on good shocks.
Is your budget that tight? Or, are you just a sucker for testing out new ****?

Cookie Monster

No I'd rather get the best thing for my use the first try.