yea I went to order one today and just my luck, sold out. It's one of the last components I need before I start assembling the block

Next batch due late Sept

Thanks!

I noticed the website says out of stock. When will the next batch be ready?

3-4 weeks. We don't accept pre-orders for them. Last batch arrived, inventory updated and sold out in about 48hrs. Sorry!
So yes, we are increasing the size of the production runs.

WOAH! Alright. Thank you!

subscribed! Looking forward to purchasing one as well.

Need one too...

Been 3-4 weeks any new news?

I wish there was some quantifiable difference someone could post between the Supermiata and ATI dampers.

ATI costs more and is heavier, both quantifiable. Sorry just had to. Just went through the same thing deciding between the two and ended up getting the Supermiata. Why, because it seem to work with out any failures that I've read about on cars that will be going to higher RPM than I plan to hit with more track time than I will ever do.

I'm also waiting for a supermiata damper to complete my build. Hope they're in soon.

Will a post be made to this thread when the dampers come in?

No. But the website will display "in stock".

Where I see it says still out of stock???

He meant WILL update to say in stock.

Want it so now I'm seeing things.....

The race is on to see which will be in stock first. RB headers or SM damper. My money is on the RB

Back in stock

Harmonic Balancer Miata

Yes they are. good looking out! Question for you guys. Which trigger wheel would be best for me? I am going to be using this on a vvt engine with seq. fuel and ign. Is the 36-2 T the one I want?
Thanks,
David

If you have a megasquirt you can run the 36-2T.

yeah I do, mspnp pro. Just ordered mine! Thanks :party:

What ECU, as that is the big factor.

Honestly the stock 4tooth trigger has worked fine for me for 4+ years with VVT on an MS3x.

MSPNP Pro for a 90-93 NA

If tuning for maximum power and high boost (>20psi) or sustained revs above 8000, the greater timing accuracy of the 36-2T is recommended. For a more conservative tune, the 4T is fine. +/- 1° error from spark scatter isn't a big deal with a conservative tune but can be with a high rpm or high boost tune. I don't have detailed data for scatter vs rpm with the 4T and 36-2T but info from similar tooth patterns on other engine indicates a need for the higher tooth count in certain applications. OEM's almost exclusively use the higher tooth counts in fast feedback loop DI engines. The SkyActiv-G engines can add a second squirt of fuel late in the cycle to cool the chamber based on sensor data.

I went ahead and ordered the 36-2 T with it. I will be raising my rev limit with my soon to be built engine, probably won't be sustained above 8000 for a while, but would like that extra accuracy anyways. Any downside to getting the 36-2T instead of the 4T?

None if you can run it.

None that we have encountered. We have it running on two cars here. One N/A NB2 engine that gets spun past 8k regularly. The other a 350whp Rotrex NB2 on pump gas with knock sensing enabled that only sees 7000rpm.

great, thanks for the info guys!

I got one I got one.......

Do these things sell out pretty quick? Might be a week before I can pick one up.

Last I heard was that the previous batch sold out within 48 hours. Could be wrong though.

Well shit. I can't be waiting around for that, my engine is almost back from the machine shop. Got one.

Annnnd it's out of stock.

Got one too! Now back to waiting for the RB headers to come in.

dang is this a new record for selling out?

When will this part be in stock again?

When the website says "In Stock"

These must be growing in popularity. Any idea when the next batch is due? Another 3-4 weeks?

Suggestion is to bookmark the page on our website. Just check it once a day until you see them read in stock. When they do read in stock, do not hesitate. We have doubled our quantity twice now and they still seem to sell out quickly. Hopefully this doubling will allow us to to have enough left over to keep them on the shelf for a while.

So it is clear though I am not going to state an ETA or update this particular forum thread when they come in. If you wait for me to update here you will miss out :( We had a few in a week or so ago. They were gone within 24 hours.

We are working on a new website that will have RSS feeds and email notifications for every product.

They're available a few times a year and typically sell out during the first day. I think there was a shipment in January and also late March so far this year.

They're baaaaaaaack! Got my order in.

I really want to close and delete the post until I have mine ordered. I don't want them to run out again before I get one.

You won't hurt my feelings. :party:

Everything is alright. I got one ordered.

You're a life saver! I've been checking pretty much daily since the last batch sold out, but I've been checking less often lately. Thanks!

didnt need one so i ordered it anyways thanks guys

Mine showed up in the mail today, Cant wait to throw it on the car! Thanks!!!

I ordered mine right now, thanks guys

I am still waiting for mine to ship along with the install tool.

I haven't been able to find the answer to this anywhere else, but at what point is the stock damper not good enough? Stock internals (~220whp?), 7k rpm redline, is the stock damper up to it?

Stock damper should be find for those numbers. From what I understand the dampers were made to fix shattering oil pump gears if you reved higher then stock red line.

I ran those power levels for over a year with stock damper, then another 10 or so years with forged internals and high boost (18 psi) with same stock damper. Redline was around 7k. Never any problems. This a mostly daily driven street car. If I did lots of track time in this car I'm sure if sing a different tune.

No one really knows for sure what exact level of power and abuse breaks oil pumps and for many years it wasn't even seen as a weak point.

Anything that needs a built motor (250whp+ or 7400rpm+) needs an aftermarket damper.

I don't... in fact I run a cut down stock damper to 8500+. The key is to bypass the factory oil pressure regulator and run an external peterson relief valve. It's not the crank deflection that kills oil pumps but the chattering and limit of flow within the stock regulator.

A lot if track cars in Aus are built this way. I'm sure a harmonic balancer still helps though.

Link to info about this? Stock oil pump gears?

Sorry no link... but it's a fairly common practice any high reving track car and comes from several of the top engine builders down here.

And yes stock gears. I haven't heard of a failure when an external oil pressure relief is used.

What's the sample size? Lots of people have run high rpm with stock gears, and not everyone has issues.

I'm not exactly sure. I would guess at least 10-12 high performance n/a cars built for circuit racing plus more from the high end club racers and 323 / astina crowd. I know of three top engine builders using this setup, all putting together serious power engines. Similar to your e-production series.

It may have started due to classing rules which are pretty stringent on engine mods. Talking to the guys running them it was definitely a known solution proved with testing and track time.

My concern is less about the oil pump (we put billet pumps in everything) and more about the damper itself. I had two OEM dampers come off the front of the motor (broke all the factory high-strength M6 fasteners) at 7400rpm and 350whp. I've also seen those fasteners break on ~7800rpm motors at just 140whp. I prefer to overbuild, so my recommendation (250+ and/or 7400+) stands.

Interesting about the external relief valve, I like that.