Why is Adaptronic better than Megasquirt?
All right, I didn't see anything like this mentioned in the 4 or so pages in this subforum.
What are the benefits of Adaptronic over Megasquirt? Adaptronic is more expensive. |
It has been discussed quite a few times, but not in this sub-section I think.
Basically IMO: ms is not pnp for 99+ nb's. Adaptronic is. That is one of the biggest things. Adaptronic has launch control and boost by gear, can operate the vics, fuel/spark autotune, datalogging, etc etc etc. Just get the tiny "wari" file and go through the whole setup and check it out. Its really good. The pnp install on 99+ cars is probably the reason most of us got it though. If you have an earlier year miata just go with the cheaper ms. just my .02 |
Originally Posted by 18psi
(Post 421821)
It has been discussed quite a few times, but not in this sub-section I think.
Basically IMO: ms is not pnp for 99+ nb's. Adaptronic is. That is one of the biggest things. Adaptronic has launch control and boost by gear, can operate the vics, fuel/spark autotune, datalogging, etc etc etc. Just get the tiny "wari" file and go through the whole setup and check it out. Its really good. The pnp install on 99+ cars is probably the reason most of us got it though. If you have an earlier year miata just go with the cheaper ms. just my .02 |
So fuel/spark autotune is a major advantage of Adaptronics for NBs.
Megasquirt can only do fuel autotune then? |
Originally Posted by r808
(Post 421879)
So fuel/spark autotune is a major advantage of Adaptronics for NBs.
Megasquirt can only do fuel autotune then? |
Don't forget the Adaptronic does sequential fuel and ignition if you want it to.
This is the thread where most of us decided that the Adaptronic is what we wanted. Its not a direct comparison but most of the details of what the Adaptronic can do are mentioned. |
Its not better for the average person. Just more expensive.
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Originally Posted by Saml01
(Post 421936)
Its not better for the average person. Just more expensive.
N/M Going to read the thread TurboRoach posted. |
Originally Posted by r808
(Post 421941)
So the average person doesn't need autotune then?
N/M Going to read the thread TurboRoach posted. If you dont have a knock sensor, then autotune on spark wont help you. Therefore it doesnt matter which ecu you use. |
Originally Posted by Saml01
(Post 421943)
If you dont have a knock sensor. . . From my limited L98 tuning experience, knock sensors were worthless compared to valvetrain clatter. Maybe technology has advanced since then. |
Originally Posted by r808
(Post 421963)
What about factory NB knock sensor? Does this count?
From my limited L98 tuning experience, knock sensors were worthless compared to valvetrain clatter. Maybe technology has advanced since then. |
Originally Posted by r808
(Post 421963)
What about factory NB knock sensor? Does this count?
From my limited L98 tuning experience, knock sensors were worthless compared to valvetrain clatter. Maybe technology has advanced since then. |
Originally Posted by Saml01
(Post 421943)
No. Get yourself megalog viewer, get two logs, and youre done.
If you dont have a knock sensor, then autotune on spark wont help you. Therefore it doesnt matter which ecu you use. In the beginning there were some kinks with installs, some people mis-read instructions, and other times the instructions just wern't that great. Now though there isn't any reason that you shouldn't be able to literally pop this ECU in and go driving. We have some great tuning maps, and there are alot of hardworking community members here that have shored up all the rough edges. The Adaptronic is the easiest to install engine management solution. Especially if you are using either stock injectors or the 600cc Deatschwerks injectors as those maps have been tuned in by experienced users. That means all your going to have to do is change very minor things in the maps to make it work perfectly for your vehicle. |
^ id love to continue this wonderful argument but I know u already have ur hands lubed up and are about to vigorously jerk off your product, so I will just bow out of this one.
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Originally Posted by Saml01
(Post 422084)
^ id love to continue this wonderful argument but I know u already have ur hands lubed up and are about to vigorously jerk off your product, so I will just bow out of this one.
Travis gets excited about the stuff he sells. If he didn't why bother selling them? Anyway back to the OP. The adaptronic is more expensive but for a 2000 like yours I think its the only pnp ecu. If you were planning on making your own harness you can save some $$ and get just the ecu that puts it a little closer to the price of a built MS (Thats what myself, y8s, & a couple of others did.). If not though you either have to get a boomslang harness or have someone make you one for the MS. The adaptronic (pnp) for the 99/00 only requires extending a couple of wires for the map sensor. Also if you need to pass emissions, it looks like most of the bugs for passing the OBDII codes have been worked out. I bought the adaptronic because: 1) I got in on the group buy and got a killer deal :D 2) Sequential Fuel (makes it easier to pass emissions) 3) My A/C works 4) Traction control 5) VVT control (I was considering swapping in an 01+ motor) |
Originally Posted by Saml01
(Post 422084)
^ id love to continue this wonderful argument but I know u already have ur hands lubed up and are about to vigorously jerk off your product, so I will just bow out of this one.
So if MS is not available to us and can not be used in this comparison, we have NOTHING cheaper than the adaptronic available to us. Period |
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Originally Posted by Saml01
(Post 422084)
^ id love to continue this wonderful argument but I know u already have ur hands lubed up and are about to vigorously jerk off your product, so I will just bow out of this one.
I uploaded a comparison project we worked on where users of MS and Hydra kicked in a feature comparison against the Adaptronic. |
Originally Posted by TravisR
(Post 422142)
Must have Adaptronic Jealousy. :giggle:
I uploaded a comparison project we worked on where users of MS and Hydra kicked in a feature comparison against the Adaptronic. |
Done!
I added a section for the early models too. |
I'd personally rather have the adaptronic.
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