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Stephanie Turner 07-14-2009 11:41 AM

S4 Turbo w/ V-Band Clamps in the works
 
The turbo is here, the wastegate is here, the v-band clamps are here - let the fun begin.

We will be making a S4 turbo system with all v-band clamps. The turbo is a beauty! The manifold will be made of cast weld elbows and ceramic coated. More photos will be posted later.

No, it is not for sale yet. If fitment and testing goes well, we will make an S4 externally gated kit for the 1.8L cars.

BEGi - - Front Page News - v_band_turbo

Stephanie

y8s 07-14-2009 11:53 AM

that tial Vband housing is spendy--especially when you consider almost $200 in "support parts" to mount it to the rest of the exhaust system!

TurboTim 07-14-2009 12:34 PM

This sounds familiar.

What turbo are you using?

TurboTim 07-14-2009 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 430238)
that tial Vband housing is spendy--especially when you consider almost $200 in "support parts" to mount it to the rest of the exhaust system!

You got that right. Retail ATP prices are ~+$100 for the turbine (if ordered with the turbo), +$49 for each v-band flange (for manifold and downpipe), +$36 for each clamp. Then you need to add an external gate, that fancy new v-band 38mm TiAL EWG retails for $279.

Cha-ching!

Stephanie Turner 07-14-2009 01:12 PM

It is about an extra $200 in pieces to make it work. (not including the cost of the turbine housing) That is one of the downsides, and why it is not more popular. But each person has to weight the pro and cons for themselves to see if it is worth it. For serious track guys with studs loosening, it may be a god send. For the street car user, it won't matter one way or the other.

We are using a GT2860 w/ 0.64 AR and the Tial stainless turbine housing.

Stephanie

juxt3r 07-14-2009 01:38 PM

Interesting.
And will there be a version of this for the 1.6, or will the 1.6 S4 remain as it is today?

y8s 07-14-2009 01:43 PM

dont get me wrong, I think V-banding the hot parts together will probably save you their cost in melted shit at the track.

elesjuan 07-14-2009 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 430301)
dont get me wrong, I think V-banding the hot parts together will probably save you their cost in melted shit at the track.

And endless loose / broken studs.

I like!

hustler 07-14-2009 02:34 PM

did someone call you this morning posing as me? Suddenly I feel left out on the fun.

Can I buy it if my studs fail again?

Stephanie Turner 07-16-2009 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by juxt3r (Post 430292)
Interesting.
And will there be a version of this for the 1.6, or will the 1.6 S4 remain as it is today?

If the 1.8L works as anticipated, we will probably do a 1.6L version.
Stephanie

Laur3ns 07-16-2009 03:12 PM

Niaaaaaaaaaaaaace. So the kit will be an upgrade kit? TiAL housing, manifold, wastegate, downpipe? Any ideas on the price ballpark?

rharris19 07-20-2009 04:15 PM

Didn't even see this thread until now. The kit is for me and I will keep you guys updated with how it is going. Should have it this week and will start getting it all together over the next few weeks.

If you are going to the TWS trackday on 10/9, I will probably have it there.

spoolin2bars 07-27-2009 11:33 PM

awesome! can't wait to see it.

Stephanie Turner 07-30-2009 01:46 PM

Manifold and Downpipe photos!

http://www.bellengineering.net/templ...e/P7266996.JPG

http://www.bellengineering.net/templ...e/P7267003.JPG

http://www.bellengineering.net/templ...e/P7267004.JPG

http://www.bellengineering.net/templ...e/P7287032.JPG

http://www.bellengineering.net/templ...e/P7287033.JPG

http://www.bellengineering.net/templ...e/P7287034.JPG

http://www.bellengineering.net/templ...e/P7287035.JPG

http://www.bellengineering.net/templ...e/P7287039.JPG

Stephanie

Laur3ns 07-30-2009 01:57 PM

+ Very, veryy sexy manifold! Price point for MF+DP?
+ No brace!
- Downpipe flange looks ghetto :)
- Waste needs re-introduced further down, no?

Works with which TiAL housings?

hustler 07-30-2009 02:17 PM

good news rharris,
I found the dyno, and its at a friend's house in Austin, lol.

hustler 07-30-2009 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by Spookyfish (Post 436681)
+ Very, veryy sexy manifold! Price point for MF+DP?
+ No brace!

we'll see if schedule-40 can hang.

Originally Posted by Spookyfish (Post 436681)
- Downpipe flange looks ghetto :)

as long as it doesn't overboost, who cares?

Originally Posted by Spookyfish (Post 436681)
- Waste needs re-introduced further down, no?

turn the boost knob 1/16th of a turn

Originally Posted by Spookyfish (Post 436681)
Works with which TiAL housings?

yes

y8s 07-30-2009 03:03 PM

looks pretty except that wg merge... that's like making a right turn onto the freeway.

and hustler, turning the boost knob wont fix spool/spike problems.

TurboTim 07-30-2009 03:18 PM

mild steel or stainless manifold that's coated? Image of the inside of the collector?

Price? !!

Looks likes a "fun" manifold to make hehe :)

Braineack 07-30-2009 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 436711)
looks pretty except that wg merge... that's like making a right turn onto the freeway.

and hustler, turning the boost knob wont fix spool/spike problems.

anything has to be more ideal than my wastegate merge.


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