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Old 07-14-2009, 12:41 PM   #1
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Default S4 Turbo w/ V-Band Clamps in the works

The turbo is here, the wastegate is here, the v-band clamps are here - let the fun begin.

We will be making a S4 turbo system with all v-band clamps. The turbo is a beauty! The manifold will be made of cast weld elbows and ceramic coated. More photos will be posted later.

No, it is not for sale yet. If fitment and testing goes well, we will make an S4 externally gated kit for the 1.8L cars.

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that tial Vband housing is spendy--especially when you consider almost $200 in "support parts" to mount it to the rest of the exhaust system!
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This sounds familiar.

What turbo are you using?
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that tial Vband housing is spendy--especially when you consider almost $200 in "support parts" to mount it to the rest of the exhaust system!
You got that right. Retail ATP prices are ~+$100 for the turbine (if ordered with the turbo), +$49 for each v-band flange (for manifold and downpipe), +$36 for each clamp. Then you need to add an external gate, that fancy new v-band 38mm TiAL EWG retails for $279.

Cha-ching!
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It is about an extra $200 in pieces to make it work. (not including the cost of the turbine housing) That is one of the downsides, and why it is not more popular. But each person has to weight the pro and cons for themselves to see if it is worth it. For serious track guys with studs loosening, it may be a god send. For the street car user, it won't matter one way or the other.

We are using a GT2860 w/ 0.64 AR and the Tial stainless turbine housing.

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Interesting.
And will there be a version of this for the 1.6, or will the 1.6 S4 remain as it is today?
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dont get me wrong, I think V-banding the hot parts together will probably save you their cost in melted **** at the track.
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dont get me wrong, I think V-banding the hot parts together will probably save you their cost in melted **** at the track.
And endless loose / broken studs.

I like!
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did someone call you this morning posing as me? Suddenly I feel left out on the fun.

Can I buy it if my studs fail again?
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Interesting.
And will there be a version of this for the 1.6, or will the 1.6 S4 remain as it is today?
If the 1.8L works as anticipated, we will probably do a 1.6L version.
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Niaaaaaaaaaaaaace. So the kit will be an upgrade kit? TiAL housing, manifold, wastegate, downpipe? Any ideas on the price ballpark?
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Didn't even see this thread until now. The kit is for me and I will keep you guys updated with how it is going. Should have it this week and will start getting it all together over the next few weeks.

If you are going to the TWS trackday on 10/9, I will probably have it there.
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awesome! can't wait to see it.
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Manifold and Downpipe photos!

















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+ Very, veryy sexy manifold! Price point for MF+DP?
+ No brace!
- Downpipe flange looks ghetto
- Waste needs re-introduced further down, no?

Works with which TiAL housings?
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good news rharris,
I found the dyno, and its at a friend's house in Austin, lol.
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+ Very, veryy sexy manifold! Price point for MF+DP?
+ No brace!
we'll see if schedule-40 can hang.
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- Downpipe flange looks ghetto
as long as it doesn't overboost, who cares?
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- Waste needs re-introduced further down, no?
turn the boost **** 1/16th of a turn
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Works with which TiAL housings?
yes
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looks pretty except that wg merge... that's like making a right turn onto the freeway.

and hustler, turning the boost **** wont fix spool/spike problems.
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mild steel or stainless manifold that's coated? Image of the inside of the collector?

Price? !!

Looks likes a "fun" manifold to make hehe
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looks pretty except that wg merge... that's like making a right turn onto the freeway.

and hustler, turning the boost **** wont fix spool/spike problems.
anything has to be more ideal than my wastegate merge.
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