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kotomile 04-22-2009 03:27 PM

Yeah, but who runs one of those?


;)

ThePass 04-22-2009 03:28 PM

*Disclaimer: I would never recommend doing this*

I ran up to 7 psi on my greddy before I switched over to bigger injectors so that was with a 12:1 disc in the Vortech so.. with stock fuel press. at say, 40psi or so + 84 psi added... yea, 124 psi (theoretically, though the pump probably was pushing all it could at 100) and although I knew in my head it was bad, the stock lines held just fine for as long as I ran it that way - about 9 months...

thagr81 us 04-22-2009 03:29 PM

Haha... Pick me! Pick me! Ran well on my old DIY T25 setup... I'm only going to be using it now to keep my injectors a little smaller.

ThePass 04-22-2009 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by kotomile (Post 399150)
Yeah, but who runs one of those?


;)

If I ever want to go over 250 whp with my 460's I will...

Braineack 04-22-2009 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by kotomile (Post 399150)
Yeah, but who runs one of those?


;)

what do you think your stock fpr is?

kotomile 04-22-2009 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 399160)
what do you think your stock fpr is?

That's what the ;) was for...

...I fail at expressing sarcasm over the interwebs.

Stephanie Turner 04-22-2009 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by Gotpsi? (Post 399131)
It would be a whole lot cooler if you used AN lines and fittings, and not rubber hose and hose claps, dont get me wrong it still is cool.

Granted, the rubber can hold the pressure just fine. But the bling factor with -AN fittings would be cool. Corky did look at using aluminum fittings, but the price would increase over $125. If ya'll are that serious, I can price it out with AN fittings and stainless lines. But I would expect the price that we are shooting for to double.

My car gets pulled in later this week for some updates. We will be putting in on my car after Tim gets a chance to flow test it. We will still need another test mule though.
Stephanie

hindle 04-22-2009 04:29 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 399148)
with a 1:1 FPR it does....


Thank you.

RotorNutFD3S 04-22-2009 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by Stephanie Turner (Post 399182)
We will still need another test mule though.
Stephanie

PM'd.

thagr81 us 04-22-2009 04:40 PM

Nice! Be sure to post plenty of pics on this, as this is extremely interesting and I have not bought a fuel rail for my project yet. :D

Gotpsi? 04-22-2009 04:50 PM

I know the rubber lines are fine, but if your going to fab up somthing like that to display you sould make the fuel lines as nice as the rest of the piece. I see nice fab work and oem hoses and clamps just seems a little tossed together..

jayc72 04-22-2009 05:04 PM

Ok maybe I'm slow, but I don't get it. How is this better than a regular fuel rail? To me it just looks more complicated with additional points of failure.

Not being a hater, I honestly don't see it.

Nice welds.

elesjuan 04-22-2009 05:06 PM

I'll take one of those.. haha.

gospeed81 04-22-2009 06:35 PM

I'll be in San Antonio next week if you need another test mule.

Seriously.

jsisco 04-22-2009 07:09 PM

Not that I see the point, but for bling factor hard lines should be cheaper. They would make it look like a diesel too.

TurboTim 04-22-2009 07:12 PM

I don't know what I'm looking at in those pictures, other than the OEM regulator.

EDIT: ok after staring at it for a few secs longer I think I figured it out. Nice solution to your supercharger fitment issue; seems easy for the common folk to copy. Why would this be better than a "high flow"/large inner dia dual feed fuel rail, if space permits?

Ben 04-22-2009 08:04 PM

All that work... and they used the factory FPR? Wasn't there a BEGi FMU laying around somewhere in the shop?

Stephanie Turner 04-23-2009 10:59 AM

More Photos.

http://www.bellengineering.net/templ...e/P4226125.JPG

http://www.bellengineering.net/templ...e/P4226125.JPG

It would, for sure, work with the MR FMU. Which is designed to replace the stock regulator.
Stephanie

Stephanie Turner 04-23-2009 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by TurboTim (Post 399228)
EDIT: ok after staring at it for a few secs longer I think I figured it out. Nice solution to your supercharger fitment issue; seems easy for the common folk to copy. Why would this be better than a "high flow"/large inner dia dual feed fuel rail, if space permits?

Corky tells me it cannot be copied completely. Internally, on the spacers, is a fuel reservoir. It will hold the fuel available for when needed with for the next pulse.
Stephanie

thagr81 us 04-23-2009 11:15 AM

Super nice work!!! Glad I haven't figured out my fuel solution yet, so I have options. :D


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