Originally Posted by shuiend
(Post 1378288)
I would highly suggest just selling the DIYPNP and getting a MS3X instead. It probably won't be to much more then the VVT tuner after you factor in the cost of that box, but will have a ton of nice features and tuneabilty over the MS2/VVT tuner combo.
Someone will pay you the cost of a new ms3x kit for your DIYPNP. Then all you need is an ecu connector, I think everything but the 2001+ are pretty easy to order for less than $30. |
Originally Posted by shuiend
(Post 1378288)
I would highly suggest just selling the DIYPNP and getting a MS3X instead. It probably won't be to much more then the VVT tuner after you factor in the cost of that box, but will have a ton of nice features and tuneabilty over the MS2/VVT tuner combo.
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Aaaagh! You guys are right. I'm calling this morning to see if I can upgrade my order to the PNP pro3. Maybe they'll even throw in some popsicle sticks so I can make my family some Xmas presents too...
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Originally Posted by wackbards
(Post 1378363)
Aaaagh! You guys are right. I'm calling this morning to see if I can upgrade my order to the PNP pro3. Maybe they'll even throw in some popsicle sticks so I can make my family some Xmas presents too...
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Originally Posted by shuiend
(Post 1378382)
This is the correct thing to do. You have made a good choice. Shoot me an email once you get it in and I can share 2 of my tunes for you. I have 2 94's running VVT motors, and have a good starting point for lots of things.
Since I'm adding LS2 coils and the PNP pro at the same time, I'm wondering if I should wire the coil harness to add sequential spark. Seems like a pretty simple change to make? |
I will try to look the next night or two how I wired my LS coils for sequential. I believe I ended up using one of the tach wires for one coil, then ran a separate wire for the other coil, or maybe I routed it through one of the egr wires.
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OK, MSPNP-PRO purchased. I also picked up a set of supertech valve seals & a set of ARP head studs. I know the factory studs aren't TTF, but the prospect of never again having to worry about how crusty the block threads are was too tempting.
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Started tearing into my junkyard VVT head. Torx fasteners on the actuator plate came right out, so that was nice.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...a4d84c7a3e.jpg I'm not sure how smooth the head deck needs to be. I'm working to clean it up, but I don't know if this degree of light surface scratching is a concern. I basically just used a plastic scraper and a razor to lift remnants of the old MLS gasket coating. The head checks out as flush down to .0015" with a .001" accurate straight edge at every point on the head I could get a measurement. Obviously I have a bunch more work to do regardless of whether i get the head decked or not . https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...e7a9177111.jpg |
What's it cost to put the right surface on it? Mine were either $40 or $60 bucks, and it was for a composite gasket too.
Have it decked, it's not flat enough nor the right surface finish for a MLS gasket any other way. I'd just have them skim it flat, no more than necessary. |
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So I just pulled a good solid bonehead move. I tipped the head over after pulling cams & spilled out about half a dozen lifters. Now I figure I can measure valve clearances & get a good estimate of what goes where, but... I always hear bad things about mixing used lifters. What should i do?
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Originally Posted by wackbards
(Post 1379227)
So I just pulled a good solid bonehead move. I tipped the head over after pulling cams & spilled out about half a dozen lifters. Now I figure I can measure valve clearances & get a good estimate of what goes where, but... I always hear bad things about mixing used lifters. What should i do?
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Originally Posted by farpolemiddle
(Post 1379233)
Get new lifters or mixed used lifters. What else could you possibly do other than that?
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Originally Posted by wackbards
(Post 1379241)
Right. I guess my question is whether i need to buy new lifters now that I've mixed them up, or if it's not a big enough deal to justify the purchase.
How many miles on the lifters and how do they look? |
Unknown miles. I'll take some pics when I get home.
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All pics of the same lifter in different light & different angles. They all look about the same.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...105fd8d41c.jpg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...da9a6047f0.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...df23cd578c.jpg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...031af836a7.jpg https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...730fc14c62.jpg |
I would run them if you are on a budget. If you going full baller then replace them. I bet you will be ok. Maybe mic them just in case.
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Good things happening here...
I got the handy VVT refurb kit from Miata Roadster. I've replaced everything except the o-rings that go inside the actuator. I hear nothing but mixed results when people crack open the actuator. If anyone has a recommendation either way, I'm all ears. https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...dadc3d5f1f.jpg |
Pulled & cleaned the intake side valve train last night. I'll do the exhaust side tonight. I used this compressor tool Greg recommended on TCPC:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B009G...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 I found a local shop that charges $70 for a low RA head decking for MLS HG heads. Same day pickup FTW. |
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