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Jeffbucc 06-21-2014 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by hornetball (Post 1142115)
You're alive!! I was wondering.

What is the MS's RPM limiter set to?

Been busy with work and had some slightly weird sleep issues that drained me enough to not having the desire to work on the car.

RPM limiter is set to 7200, and the boost cut is 280kpa.

curly 06-21-2014 05:46 PM

Check/disable launch control. If OP had it enabled, it could be grounded by mistake.

eduTechnic 06-21-2014 06:04 PM

...:loser:

eduTechnic 06-21-2014 10:46 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1139329)
Pcvs don't just fail.


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1142106)
Because catch cans are silly if you don't know what youre doing or have a real reason to run one...

This is not so helpful for a dude trying to learn from scratch.

If he hadn't run a catch can he would have dumped loads of oil right into the cylinders and possibly hydrolocked the engine. So really, the catch can was worth it's weight in gold. Turns out, the PO had lines run a certain way and Jeff simply didn't know how to run the valve cover-to-catch can-to intake lines (no pcv, block vent etc). I'd also recommend a smoke test at this point for boost and vacuum leaks. Glad you got ride of the oil/smoke problem and can continue making sure things are all setup correctly. I would venture your TS settings are pretty good since you didn't make huge changes from PO's setup. Make sure the boost controller-to-wastegate vacuum line are plumbed to the right port on the waste gate.

Keep the criticism to something objective and helpful, not snarky and useless.

EO2K 06-21-2014 10:52 PM

Well, I'm glad that got sorted.

Any chance you can get a log of it "hitting the wall" as it were? Post it up and lets see if we catch something you missed.


Originally Posted by eduTechnic (Post 1142168)
Keep the criticism to something objective and helpful, not snarky and useless.

I sense you are new here :giggle:

curly 06-21-2014 11:26 PM


Originally Posted by eduTechnic (Post 1142168)
Keep the criticism to something objective and helpful, not snarky and useless.

Def, Snarky: sarcastic, impertinent, or irreverent in tone or manner <snarky lyrics>. See, Braineack.

Jeffbucc 06-22-2014 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by curly (Post 1142172)
Def, Snarky: sarcastic, impertinent, or irreverent in tone or manner <snarky lyrics>. See, Braineack.

Ask the question thrice and you may get an answer!

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1403411194

18psi 06-22-2014 12:48 AM

:giggle:

In for 25psi vids of glory

BTMiata 06-22-2014 10:22 AM

I agree with turning off launch control.... My MS did the same exact thing and that is what solved the issue for me.

Jeffbucc 06-22-2014 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by BTMiata (Post 1142202)
I agree with turning off launch control.... My MS did the same exact thing and that is what solved the issue for me.

No launch control active. Maybe spark plug blowout? Gapped at .40 at the moment. Maybe .20?

vteckiller2000 06-22-2014 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by Jeffbucc (Post 1142204)
No launch control active. Maybe spark plug blowout? Gapped at .40 at the moment. Maybe .20?

Try .028"

If it is rich enough you may also be getting into a rich misfire. My Volvo does it but it is in the 9's AFR when it happens. Surely you would notice it on the wideband.

Braineack 06-22-2014 07:26 PM


Originally Posted by eduTechnic (Post 1142168)

This is not so helpful for a dude trying to learn from scratch.

If he hadn't run a catch can he would have dumped loads of oil right into the cylinders and possibly hydrolocked the engine. So really, the catch can was worth it's weight in gold. Turns out, the PO had lines run a certain way and Jeff simply didn't know how to run the valve cover-to-catch can-to intake lines (no pcv, block vent etc). I'd also recommend a smoke test at this point for boost and vacuum leaks. Glad you got ride of the oil/smoke problem and can continue making sure things are all setup correctly. I would venture your TS settings are pretty good since you didn't make huge changes from PO's setup. Make sure the boost controller-to-wastegate vacuum line are plumbed to the right port on the waste gate.

Keep the criticism to something objective and helpful, not snarky and useless.

The oil was due to the catch can plumbing.

Braineack 06-22-2014 07:28 PM

If stock coils then yes. You'll get blow out above 10psi or so. So gap down to .030 or upgrade to cops. If you already have cops, which I think you do, then that's not the issue.

Jeffbucc 06-22-2014 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1142288)
If stock coils then yes. You'll get blow out above 10psi or so. So gap down to .030 or upgrade to cops. If you already have cops, which I think you do, then that's not the issue.

Yup, COP is on the car. I'll adjust the gap when I clean up the plugs a little.

I think I was getting some fouling.....

Time to break out the wire brush.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1403495897

vteckiller2000 06-23-2014 12:07 AM

Your spark settings and dwell, what are they?

Jeffbucc 06-23-2014 12:09 AM

Spark plug gap is .40. I believe off the top of my head my dwell is 2.2.

Jeffbucc 06-23-2014 12:14 AM

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Woops sorry you wanted the TS settings?

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1403496872

ScottyP3821 06-23-2014 12:08 PM

Number of Coils should stay wasted spark
edit also cranking dwell should be 3.5 and set your Nominal Dwell to 2.1 and while the car is running adjust your dwell correction curve

Braineack 06-23-2014 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by ScottyP3821 (Post 1142467)
Number of Coils should stay wasted spark
edit also cranking dwell should be 3.5 and set your Nominal Dwell to 2.1 and while the car is running adjust your dwell correction curve

why? didnt he wire for seq. spark?

With toyota COPs you can gap to .045"

Jeffbucc 06-23-2014 12:23 PM

So I shouldn't adjust the gap to be more narrow with sequential Toyota COP?


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