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Old 02-21-2013, 11:14 AM
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Hi All,
My build is progressing and although I have everything ready to install it has been too cold to do it.

Over Christmas I purchased 92redturbomiata's old Greddy kit before he sold his car. My build will be identical to his except I think I'm going to use a different wideband, an old PLX M200 that doesn't require separate controller wiring from the gauge, it seems to be a lot easier to run than the LC1 that came in the "kit". I have been pestering Tadd with questions about the MS1 as I was pretty clueless before I spent lots of time reading old threads. I know the MS1 in parallel mode gets a lot of hate but it seems to work well for a lot of people too. Things I was confused about; Wiring the VTPS, wiring the IAT, wiring the fuel pump relay, using Tunerstudio (I upgraded to the full version). I have used lots of Honda ECU solutions in the past (Crome, Uberdata, Neptune) and they all seem to be a bit simpler than Tunerstudio. Hopefully I'll get over the learning curve once I get the car running. I'll try not to fry my ignitor.

My build includes:
Greddy Kit
Ebay intercooler
Rx7 460's
Really Old Brain MS1

I could probably finish this in a weekend if it was warm enough. I've been using a diesel space heater, which is nice and warm but also makes it hard to breathe.

Just finished putting my Torsen and clutch in a couple weeks ago:




My garage and the kit:




New Diff Bushings:






ACT Clutch:


Turbo Kitten:



Lots more to come as the weather improves. I'll also use this thread to ask stupid MegaSquirt questions should they come up but hopefully I'll keep that to a minimum.
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How did this work?


I have no idea how to get the rubber off mine.
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Put them on the grill on med-high until it gets nice and smokey, then hold the metal with a gloved hand and pull the rubber off with pliers. Took me 10 minutes. What the heat from the grill does is melt the glue that holds the rubber onto the metal, rather than actually melting the rubber.
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VTPS and Harness



MS1



Aux fuse box

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hey that stuff looks oddly familiar. good call on upgrading those bushings, im sure they were warn out. where did you pick up that fuse panel, i might pick one up for my build.
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Originally Posted by redturbomiata View Post
where did you pick up that fuse panel, i might pick one up for my build.
I got it at Summit. I think it was $70. I wanted to properly add circuits to the car for gauges, MS, o2 sensor, whatever. I've been half-assing wiring in my cars since I was 16 so it was time to do it right.
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Tadd, while you're "here", can you confirm these pictures? I guess I'm still not sure on the cut pink wire.



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While we're on the subject of doing wiring the right way, friends don't let friends use vampire taps.
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Since my wiring is totally untouched at this point it has the potential for cleanup, and being done correctly.
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cause you dont have the center connector apparently.
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Not sure what the center connector would look like. I have this:

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it would fit into the middle of the yellow connector so you can wire to that the wires that were cut off.
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This guy?


It sounds important. I was planning on just removing the cut wires and running new ones to those pins.
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if you dont have that, just wire directly to the cut wires.
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center connector was missing when i got it, and i did the wiring the quick and dirty way. i would recommend doing it correctly
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The best thing about the 90-93 chassis is, you don't care when you wreck the paint.



Aftermarket fender was literally "screwed" onto the bumper. Thanks a lot previous owner.



The carfax said it was in a low speed front collision. The tweaked chassis, dent in the subframe, and aftermarket front pieces indicate otherwise.



Gosh that greddy turbo is tiny, and it still manages to spool slow.

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Originally Posted by AlexL View Post
Gosh that greddy turbo is tiny, and it still manages to spool slow.
Yeah but it makes up for the lack of low-end with a lack of top end.
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Posted my question in the MS forum.

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Yeah but it makes up for the lack of low-end with a lack of top end.
someone's been listening
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Yeah I got some good lols out of that one Brain.

Reminded me of one my neighbor who was a recording engineer told me: No highs, no lows, must be a Bose.
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