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aidandj 11-20-2016 08:26 AM

Don't post a part number or anything....

send me some with the fire sleeve.

hi_im_sean 11-20-2016 11:06 AM

Can they not be replaced with something better?

ryansmoneypit 11-25-2016 09:07 PM

Well those vvt screws were some real turds to get out.

So check this problem I have encountered .
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...a70b672938.jpg
My new to me 6258 and my new ARTech manifold both use 8mm hardware. Know body runs these little pieces of pasta on a track car, do they? I wanted to utilize my TrackSpeed 10mm inconel stuff on this, but now I haz the problem.

Should I just drill, tap and install some keen certs, and then run the 10mm stuff? I really don't want to cut off the flange and make a new one.

aidandj 11-25-2016 09:10 PM


Originally Posted by ryansmoneypit (Post 1377181)
Well those vvt screws were some real turds to get out.

So check this problem I have encountered .
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...a70b672938.jpg
My new to me 6258 and my new ARTech manifold both use 8mm hardware. Know body runs these little pieces of pasta on a track car, do they? I wanted to utilize my TrackSpeed 10mm inconel stuff on this, but now I haz the problem.

Should I just drill, tap and install some keen certs, and then run the 10mm stuff? I really don't want to cut off the flange and make a new one.

Sell the 10mm and buy the TSE 8mm efr specific kit.

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ryansmoneypit 11-25-2016 09:12 PM

Moneypit.

Wasn't 10mm the must have like a year ago?

patsmx5 11-25-2016 09:14 PM


Originally Posted by ryansmoneypit (Post 1377181)
Well those vvt screws were some real turds to get out.

So check this problem I have encountered .
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...a70b672938.jpg
My new to me 6258 and my new ARTech manifold both use 8mm hardware. Know body runs these little pieces of pasta on a track car, do they? I wanted to utilize my TrackSpeed 10mm inconel stuff on this, but now I haz the problem.

Should I just drill, tap and install some keen certs, and then run the 10mm stuff? I really don't want to cut off the flange and make a new one.

You can probably just drill/tap and screw the hardware you have right in. That should be easy and cheap if you have the drill and tap already. Can't be more than 20 bucks for a bit and tap if you don't, then you can use the bigger/stronger 10mm studs.

18psi 11-25-2016 09:15 PM

what is the "problem", or the question? 8mm inco is stronger than you think

patsmx5 11-25-2016 09:21 PM

I think the prob is he already has 10mm hardware, but 8mm threads. 10mm would be stronger than 8mm, I'd go 10mm especially since he already has them. Would take like 30 minutes to drill/tap those to 10mm once he has the tap and drill.

Sorry but I gotta ask. How much is that sweet manifold cost? That looks baller. Pretty nice design.

ryansmoneypit 11-25-2016 09:21 PM

My concern was that last year I thought the concensus was that 10mm was needed. Not arguing either way, I just don't want to have this thing fall off.


Edit: Pat, you are correct. I have 10mm studs already . I need to look it up, but I think that the major dia. of 8mm is larger than the minor 10. I hesitate to use a short thread, but maybe it isn't enough to worry about.

aidandj 11-25-2016 09:21 PM

You also might have to shorten the stud. And will have to grind a lot of the efr housing to fit a 10mm stud.

everybody knows smaller is better.

ryansmoneypit 11-25-2016 09:26 PM

It's just the side mount ARTech manifold. I got it with the downpipe from some dude a while back. I think it's like 350, or something close to that.

ryansmoneypit 11-25-2016 09:29 PM

Well if everyone else is fine with the 8'S then I will be too. MONEYPIT !

Owning A turbo miata is like owning a boat.

patsmx5 11-25-2016 09:30 PM


Originally Posted by ryansmoneypit (Post 1377190)
My concern was that last year I thought the concensus was that 10mm was needed. Not arguing either way, I just don't want to have this thing fall off.


Edit: Pat, you are correct. I have 10mm studs already . I need to look it up, but I think that the major dia. of 8mm is larger than the minor 10. I hesitate to use a short thread, but maybe it isn't enough to worry about.

Nope, there's enough to do it. Tap drill will be OD - thread pitch, so M10x1.5 = 8.5mm tap drill so you'd be ok.

I dunno about 10mm fitment with that turbo, but if it fits I'd run it.

aidandj 11-26-2016 01:14 AM

10mm fits on the turbo. But it take a ton of grinding. And the stainless exhaust housing doesn't like being ground.

You can get efr specific studs. Sell your 10s and go 8.

Savington 11-26-2016 02:19 PM

We did 10s first because we were helping customers that had already upgraded to 10mm studs. When we designed the EFR kits, we designed around an 8mm stud. Both work fine.

ridethecliche 12-01-2016 03:07 AM

Planned obsolescence!

ryansmoneypit 12-01-2016 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1377292)
We did 10s first because we were helping customers that had already upgraded to 10mm studs. When we designed the EFR kits, we designed around an 8mm stud. Both work fine.

Thank you for the clarity. You get more of my money.

EO2K 12-01-2016 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by aidandj (Post 1377212)
And the stainless exhaust housing doesn't like being ground.

I know I'm a little late with the comment but jesus christ this. Don't fucking grind on the stainless EFR housing, its not worth it. Just get the correct 8mm studs from TSE and be done with it.

ryansmoneypit 12-15-2016 07:38 PM

Slllloowww progress here, but forward nine the less.

started installing my Sad Fab hybrid kit into my existing urethane junk. I had to mod some stuff because I can't leave well enough alone.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...2c06ca19e1.jpg
Drill and chamfer a hole to guide the grease from my existing zerk, through the bushings and into the new bearing area.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...c185ea5d95.jpg
But what do you do when the zerk is in the middle? Grasshopper, we must mode-e-fy them.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...63fb1649e1.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...f0bba78f4f.jpg
Now I can squirt my grease everywhere inside. I know, oil-lite bearings are oil impregnated, I get that. I don't give a damn, I like grease. I love Dominator grease. These front arms are currently defying gravity now. They move like they are on roller bearings now, and it all bolted up super tight with no play fore, aft, or radially.

A special thanks to Sad Fab.
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hi_im_sean 12-16-2016 12:21 AM

Regardless of being oilite, they still need grease! Im not sure why people still fight that. Anyway, there's a small gap in between the bearings when installed for the grease to flow through, but your craziness cant hurt.


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