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Old 12-11-2016, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Savington
The 1.8L FPR's vacuum nipple faces into the cylinder head IIRC, so your vacuum line will eventually tear, lean the motor out, and blow it up. The 1.6L FPR works, you just have to straighten that nipple out. Alternatively, you can source the EUDM 99-00 FPR from a return-style NB, which drops in and fits perfectly. Even fires the fuel line down, which is slightly preferred over the upside-down 1.6L FPR which puts the return line up.
Are you talking about the in-tank FPR from an nb? I searched for a bit for EUDM FPRs and not coming up with anything. As far as fitment for a 1.8 FPR goes, how would something like this fare? Fuel Delivery System / Fuel Rail I'm averse to adding more lines than I need to because that just opens up more opportunities for leaks, but I'm curious what people's thoughts are on the firewall mounted fuel "rail".
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Originally Posted by Philly Miata
Are you talking about the in-tank FPR from an nb? I searched for a bit for EUDM FPRs and not coming up with anything. As far as fitment for a 1.8 FPR goes, how would something like this fare? Fuel Delivery System / Fuel Rail I'm averse to adding more lines than I need to because that just opens up more opportunities for leaks, but I'm curious what people's thoughts are on the firewall mounted fuel "rail".
No, I mean the EUDM/JDM return-style NB regulator. It was not a US part and is a little hard to find in the US. The 1.6L FPR does the same job, just not quite as cleanly.

I would never run that kind of fuel delivery system on my car.
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Ah okay, explains hard to find. I had noticed that nobody runs that fuel system, why not?
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All we have is 93 octane or race fuel
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Originally Posted by Philly Miata
Ah okay, explains hard to find. I had noticed that nobody runs that fuel system, why not?
It's solving a problem that doesn't exist
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The problem being their claim that fuel injectors don't get even pressure? I understand I have a couple options for this FPR issue, and i would like to keep things simple if possible. For my current potential setup, is there any reason I shouldn't just get an aftermarket rail and fpr? FWIW I'm a noob with a big budget, so I want to learn this thing in and out and get what it takes to make this car as reliable as possible. I'm still combing through different threads to see what you guys have done before to hopefully eliminate the dumbest of questions

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Originally Posted by Onyxyth
Actually now that I think about it I'm definitely using the NB fuel rail. The 1.6 FPR wouldn't work with the VICS manifold.

MS3x can do table switching on an input, you could run a highboost/lowboost table via a switch on the dash.

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Originally Posted by Onyxyth
This is a NA 1.8 FPR on the NB Rail & VICS intake.
If the vacuum line clears (pics are ambiguous), then it's intake manifold dependent. The 1.6L FPR is still a better option.
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Originally Posted by sixshooter
All we have is 93 octane or race fuel
Some of the Thorntons in the area have E85 pumps.
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Originally Posted by Ryan_G
Some of the Thorntons in the area have E85 pumps.
Nearest single location is 29 minutes one way. No e85 in this half of the county or the next county.
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Originally Posted by Savington
If the vacuum line clears (pics are ambiguous), then it's intake manifold dependent. The 1.6L FPR is still a better option.
So to straighten the nipple out I just heat it and slowly straighten it?
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Originally Posted by curly
where has this info been for the dozen NB swaps I've done. Does this mean 60psi? Off to scour eBay.
Pretty sure it is 43.5 + reference. I bought (2) used ones from England and am using one. In Japan it fed from the unused nipple right on top of the NB1 manifold for a neat install. See my build thread, post 79.

PM me if you are interested in my 2nd one. $28 delivered.

Else, search for BP5B13280 and it will be about $30 delivered from England.

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Originally Posted by DNMakinson
Pretty sure it is 43.5 + reference. I bought (2) used ones from England and am using one. In Japan it fed from the unused nipple right on top of the NB1 manifold for a neat install. See my build thread, post 79.

PM me if you are interested in my 2nd one. $28 delivered.

Else, search for BP5B13280 and it will be about $30 delivered from England.
Sick! Thanks for the part number, just ordered one.
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Heres an update to parts and stuff.

Been steadily getting parts in the mail. Ordered a big assortment of nuts and bolts from McMaster and Bolt Depot to replace stuff that needs to be replaced. Good ones were 4 M10x1.5 10mm bolts for plugging the oil jets. ID1000s came today from 949. Yesterday got my wideband and gauge, Walbro 255, and BE oil pump. Other parts that I have now are my short shifter, poly bushings kit, depowered steering rack from Hahnlsquid, ACT XT 6 puck and pressure plate, Gates water pump, SuperMiata Damper, new master and slave cylinders, Hawley LS coil brackets and coils with custom plug wires, probably more stuff I've forgotten but that's the major stuff. I've finished assembling my MS3X but need to adjust the pots and put the harness connector together. I think I have just about everything I need to start putting the short block together. I'll drill and tap my oil pan this weekend, gonna do TSE's turbo kit and that comes with all the fittings and lines.

Some things left to buy: wheels/tires, radiator and coolant reroute, IC, BOV and charge piping, turbo kit, alternator belt...small stuff

Got my EUDM NB FPR as recommended, I can't wait to start putting this thing together

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Where are the Pictures?
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I have some individual pictures, i want to do a total picture sometime today, it'll look awesome.

Brackets not pictured, Hawley Performance sent me some D585s
Cleaned up the 6 speed
Scrub a dub din, just simple green, degreaser, wire brushes, steel wool and elbow grease
Dirty, compare to above picture
MS3X kind of done-ish
Gates Water Pump, master and slave, Moss had a discount on stuff and i got a bushing kit, might as well.
SuperMiata Damper. I didn't go ATI because this was cheaper and seemed to be made FOR the car, looks great.
Nielex Joy Stick off of Rev9
ACT XT 6 puck, I went this way just to overbuild the car where I can, I inderstand it's a wear part, probably won't be amazing to street a lot, but again, overbuild and take a step back next time rather than find out if things break.
Hahnlsquid makes depowered steering racks. Thanks again to him
EUDM FPR for NB, ideally, as I was told, this should do well to drop in and not give space or angular issues with lines.
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I did a thing today.

In other news I realized i ordered 10x1.5 10mm bolts instead of 1.25 for the intended purpose of removing the oil jets
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Did a few more things today
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Oil pan cleaned of old silicone gasket, almost ready to put on the block
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