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concealer404 Aug 16, 2017 08:20 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1432658)
Wheel width is bead to bead. Add another 10mm per side to get the full height dimension (so a 10" 254mm wheel measures 274mm tall when sitting on the ground). (10mm for at least the 6UL and Jongbloed Aero500, I measured both.) A 9" 6UL measures ~160mm from hub face to inner edge, less 10mm, less ~114mm (4.5"), gets you 36mm. 10" 6UL measures ~162mm from hub face to inner edge, less 10mm, less 127mm (5"), gets you 25mm.

I think you have +10s.

I have some numbers. Pls halp.

@Savington

Measurements taken with wheel sitting "face" down. Due to stancey stretch, measuring from floor is accurate as wheel is contacting floor.

Total height: 280.5mm
Backspace: 164mm
Mounting pads (entire relief, didn't have a great way to just get the lug holes): 15.5mm

What is going on?

Savington Aug 16, 2017 08:38 PM

Based on those numbers, I get 23.75mm of offset.

concealer404 Aug 16, 2017 08:40 PM

Same here. I'm at a total loss, and i'm reasonably sure nobody put a custom 4-6" wider subframe front and rear in the car prior to my ownership.

concealer404 Aug 16, 2017 08:54 PM

Compared track (at lower "edge" of wheel) on the two cars in my garage.

Hater Front: 69.5"
DD Front: 63"
Hater Rear: 69.75"
DD Rear: 63"

Savington Aug 16, 2017 08:58 PM

What wheel does the DD have?

concealer404 Aug 16, 2017 09:07 PM

Stock NB1. It's a 99. Haven't measured camber, but it's got a good bit. It's slammered on Xidas.

Padlock Aug 16, 2017 09:32 PM

how i feel trying to solve this issue
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images...Hh_400x400.jpg

doward Aug 16, 2017 10:43 PM

I'm betting you got some 10" +10 wheels. A "narrow" Maxxis 245 on an 11" would be like, exposing the bead stretched.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...06607a417c.jpg

concealer404 Aug 16, 2017 10:46 PM

Measurements are above. Does not appear to be +10s. The plot sickens.

Savington Aug 16, 2017 10:48 PM

Do you have ELBJs, maxed-out camber bolts, adjustable upper arms, and a pinchweld height of ~4" or lower?

doward Aug 16, 2017 10:49 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1434286)
Measurements are above. Does not appear to be +10s. The plot sickens.

Fail. I missed that.

I don't have an unmounted 10 laying around right now, let me go pull one off Bullet...

vteckiller2000 Aug 16, 2017 10:52 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1434288)
Do you have ELBJs, maxed-out camber bolts, adjustable upper arms, and a pinchweld height of ~4" or lower?

IIRC, he has all of those with exception of the pinch weld is at 4.25"

concealer404 Aug 16, 2017 10:53 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1434288)
Do you have ELBJs, maxed-out camber bolts, adjustable upper arms, and a pinchweld height of ~4" or lower?

1) Yes (but obviously no bearing on the rear)
2) Very no
3) Yes (but not all weird and jacked up because of lack of camber bolt necessary to hit -3)
4) 4.25"

vteckiller2000 Aug 16, 2017 10:58 PM

Ahhhh, I should have been paying attention with you guys were aligning it.

Monk Aug 17, 2017 09:25 AM

Obviously, you have the extremely limited edition wide-track miata that Mazda produced in secret.

TurboTim Aug 17, 2017 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1434251)
Mounting pads (entire relief, didn't have a great way to just get the lug holes): 15.5mm

What is this measurement?

sixshooter Aug 17, 2017 09:39 AM

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...9ab2d16bfe.jpg

concealer404 Aug 17, 2017 09:41 AM


Originally Posted by TurboTim (Post 1434352)
What is this measurement?

Depth of the cutouts in the mounting pad of the wheel. Where it sits on the hub.

How many people find a total width of a little over 11" very strange for a 10" wheel?

TurboTim Aug 17, 2017 09:44 AM

Wait a minute...


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1434251)

Measurements taken with wheel sitting "face" down. Due to stancey stretch, measuring from floor is accurate as wheel is contacting floor.

Total height: 280.5mm
Backspace: 164mm

So you have the outside of the wheel on the ground, and you're using a tape measure to measure the height of the wheel and the height of the mounting pad, with the end of the tape measure on the ground for both measurements? In that case, these are -23.75's, not +23.75's.

concealer404 Aug 17, 2017 09:46 AM


Originally Posted by TurboTim (Post 1434355)
Wait a minute...

So you have the outside of the wheel on the ground, and you're using a tape measure to measure the height of the wheel and the height of the mounting pad? In that case, these are -23.75's, not +23.75's.

That 164mm is mounting pad to inner edge of wheel.


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