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18psi 03-31-2009 02:11 AM

OH MY GOD!! :eek5: its a monster!!! I'm so hard:giggle:

NA6C-Guy 03-31-2009 03:41 AM

I see no cosmetic problems, looks like art to me. Even more so once its in the car.

y8s 03-31-2009 10:13 AM

hmm anyone notice that that turbo-side view with the drain line hanging down looks like a man bending over from behind?

JayL 04-09-2009 03:20 AM

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Made some progress tonight.

skidude 04-09-2009 09:30 AM

Bamf

JayL 04-11-2009 01:26 AM

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It's alive. Going to do some street tuning in the morning and then off to dyno day.

thagr81 us 04-12-2009 10:07 AM

Looking good Jason! Thanks for posting your dyno with the GT30R in my thread. Can't wait until you get things sorted and get that turbocharger to BREATHE!

M-Tuned 04-12-2009 01:26 PM

Very Nice Build!

kotomile 04-12-2009 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 388848)
hmm anyone notice that that turbo-side view with the drain line hanging down looks like a man bending over from behind?

http://www.deathreference.com/images...01_img0054.jpg

JayL 04-22-2009 03:05 PM

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As a few other threads stated, I had some issues a week or so ago at a dyno day. I was running a base tune and the car just performed so poorly that I thought there had to be a mechanical issue.

Last night I got it back on the dyno at 5pm to see if the little fixes made any difference. The first couple of pulls were a repeat of the week prior. We pulled everything off and started rechecking all of our work. Started changing out components from another VVT head with hopes that it was all VVT related. After changing out everything, all we found is that the VVT actuators were actually different between the two heads.

At about 1am it was decided that we had done all that we could and started it back up and made a few more pulls. With nothing else to lose, we started adding timing and hoped for the best. After several tweaks it started to come around and ran decent and no longer made more power with the VVT solenoid disconnected.

After 48 pulls last night we pulled it off the dyno this morning at 7am with a rough tune that I'm very happy with. I am not only very happy with the outcome so far, but I learned a ton about the Hydra software and tuning in general. Andre at Pina Motorsports worked his magic and got the car running so much better all the while teaching me the fundamentals of how to tune a car.

I'm so tired right now, but it was so worth it. Here's dyno plot of where we left it. It's going back in May for more and we'll see how much more we can get out of it.

This run was made at 17.5# and the car is running on 92 octane gas.

thagr81 us 04-22-2009 03:32 PM

VERY NICE Jason! Glad to see that turbo starting to breathe... Do you happen to have the pressure plot as compared to RPM again? If not, no biggie...

hustler 04-22-2009 11:00 PM

nice to see it come together with an insanity dyno. It feels good to get your shit on the road, right?

do you have 4th gear traction?

JayL 04-22-2009 11:14 PM

As we finished up the dyno runs this morning it started raining so I haven't been able to see what it can do. Hopefully I will do a little driving tomorrow.

Thanks for giving me a peek at those timing maps. Definitely helped me get an idea of what I was after. What I learned last week doing research, then having my tuner sitting next to me answering all my stupid questions last night and actually demonstrating to me how they effect the car as we made the changes was incredible.

hustler 04-23-2009 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by JayL (Post 399336)
As we finished up the dyno runs this morning it started raining so I haven't been able to see what it can do. Hopefully I will do a little driving tomorrow.

Thanks for giving me a peek at those timing maps. Definitely helped me get an idea of what I was after. What I learned last week doing research, then having my tuner sitting next to me answering all my stupid questions last night and actually demonstrating to me how they effect the car as we made the changes was incredible.

Raining in Seattle, no way! I'll take daily rain in Seattle over sunshine in Houston any day.

I'm happy the starter maps helped. Any insight on why the torque drops like a rock? Mine does the same. I wonder if it has something to do with our turbine or housing.

JayL 04-23-2009 12:35 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 399402)
Any insight on why the torque drops like a rock? Mine does the same. I wonder if it has something to do with our turbine or housing.

It's something we'll always have to a certain extent regardless. One thing that will do the most to improve it is an intake manifold. I'm still running a stock 01 manifold and it just doesn't do as well as I would like. I've been waiting for a Miata vendor to bring something to market in this area, but I'm starting to look elsewhere. Something from Magnus Motorsports is what I will probably end up with.

thagr81 us 04-23-2009 04:29 PM

Jason... Have you contacted Magnus about producing one those for a Miata application? Would be cool if we could get enough interest and a price quote to potentially get the ball rolling with them.

Orion ZyGarian 04-23-2009 09:07 PM

Torque dropping like a rock? Haha I'd say thats holding up pretty damn well for an engine this size! Anyways, I agree with the intake manifold idea. Outside of cams and turbo, it probably has the biggest influence on the shape of the curves. If you're willing to give up some low end, shorter runners would bump the top end up a bit. That's where variable length intakes come in to play, like the 99+ head or whatever.

M-Tuned 04-23-2009 09:57 PM


Originally Posted by thagr81 us (Post 399614)
Jason... Have you contacted Magnus about producing one those for a Miata application? Would be cool if we could get enough interest and a price quote to potentially get the ball rolling with them.

I personally know Marco the owner of Mangus. I work 5 minutes from his facility.

The question is if we would get enough interest in the manifolds. Especially since we would need a 90-93, 94-97 and 99-05 version as they all bolt up differently.

thagr81 us 04-23-2009 10:32 PM

Very true... Marc, you wanna try putting something together? As I'm sure you have the resources to make it happen. Would help out Jason and the Miata community as a whole. As long as it is proven to flow better and make more power up top I'm down for a '99 unit for sure!

M-Tuned 04-23-2009 10:35 PM


Originally Posted by thagr81 us (Post 399764)
As long as it is proven to flow better and make more power up top I'm down for a '99 unit for sure!

His manifold design in proven, but it is hard to do this when he would be making them specially for us! My guess is that we would need 10 of a model to get this going.


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