Alright, fuck it. Since its a hopeless dumpster fire, FUCKING FREE!

Will you deliver?

I could try. Fucking thing won't run

lol. Walk away, go have a beer, come back tomorrow and you'll get it done in no time. Shit just gets worse when you're worked up and frustrated. Happens to me almost every time I work on the car.

Yep, go find something else to do for a little while.

Oh if it won't run at all, that's not the TPS. It'll start and idle with no TPS signal at all (as you found earlier).

Right, it just won't sense the signal from the tps

Are we having an actual discussion or are you just parroting what i'm saying without understanding?

Does the car run or not? You said it doesn't. Does it actually run?

My bad, I meant that it'll turn on and idle, but nothing past that. Any throttle that's applied, the car immediately dies

Gotta be concise, otherwise you don't get anywhere.

Fix your TPS. Once you've got a handle on that, fix your wideband. Then re-evaluate.

I'll probably replace my wideband, and Lars is gonna be awesome and drop ship me a new tps.

How did you arrive at the conclusion that the TPS is defective?

I would verify that your wideband is broken before you replace it. No offense but you don't seem to have any idea what you're doing, so it's more than likely that you just don't have it hooked up right, or it might be something little like a dead sensor. Throwing $160 at the problem without having an understanding of what is actually wrong doesn't have a great chance of success.

Makes sense, and the wideband has been throwing the E8 error code on and off lately. I'd have to check the wiring again since the shop did it. And the tps had no voltage going to it whatsoever.

Going TO it? As in it isn't being supplied reference power?

The wire that's supplying the voltage is giving off the 5v reading, but I'm not able to get a proper ground with any of the prongs in the tps.

Got a diagram handy? I didn't look into this much when i did this job the other day. I swapped two wires and went on with my ilfe.

I suspect there's a ground in the wiring going TO the TPS. If so, do you get a good ground through that?

I'll have to check again, but I don't have a diagram. I did switch the wires, but that did nothing, as there was still no signal coming from the tps

it's the black/green wire.

Oh...I switched the black and red wire...

with what?

what is even happening here? have we really gone like 5 pages about a tps now?

You should probably find a diagram. Then use the diagram to ensure that you have your pigtail wired right, and that it's got ground/voltage where it should.

Good lord,

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...82a59e7dce.png


Black/lt grn is ground, dont fuking touch it... or rather put it back where it was.

Type "miata schematic" into google and literally a 100+ results of factory wiring diagrams. This thread may confuse you more than it helps you, but for the cognitive thinkers among us:
https://www.miataturbo.net/megasquir...5-75375/page2/

When I say switched I meant swapped. Didn't think there was much of a difference, my bad. And there's just three wires for it the red being the 5v, the black being the ground, and the green being the signal. I switched the ground and the 5v wires around, which is what I thought I was supposed to do. And I also read that PNP Pro already has a jumper for the tps, is that true?

That'll do it.

what does the manual that was provided with it say?

Don't touch the middle wire. Just don't. Well, now that you already did, undo that. Then don't touch it again.

Reading up and it's saying with the pnp pro that it'll need a jumper

So using powers of reasoning, do you think you need a jumper or not?

Going by what DIYAUTOTUNE has on their website, yes I'll need a jumper

Make it happen. Feels like we're making progress today. I mean, just look at my post count growing!

Sorry man, I was drunk and angry as shit when I said that. I'm gonna give it another shot today.

So you can be even dumber and fail even harder?

Aww you're so kind

I would consider this to be a love/hate relationship.

I have read nearly every post so far... we are getting close to the climax https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...5bbc0a2ed0.gif

Seems to be pretty spot on. Ordered the jumpers as I opened up my MS and there is most definitely no jumper on the vtps nodes.

Is this car revving yet?

Not yet, unfortunately. I'm going to try and run stuff on MAP only until the jumpers for the tps come in.

EDIT: Turns out I didn't configure the Megasquirt to run on the GM IAT sensor and that was preventing it from revving. She'll rev up now but still has a fair amount of hesitation. Just need to mess with the Fuel VE table a bit it seems

I would not advise putting any effort into making it do things until you have a working TPS.

Makes sense. Even got the jumper on the vtps nodes and that did nothing. Double checked the wiring and nothing. But I did also find out the shop didn't plumb my intake idle tube into the piping, which was causing bad idling. I'll have to rig something up

Skunk2 intake manifold and NB IAC setup.

That won't work on my dumpster fire 1.6 though will it?

Oh that's right.

Ok then source UK market NB 1.6 manifold and throttle body.

Gotcha, gonna be a tough look for one those. Thanks!

Probably easier to do a VVT swap and leave it n/a.

Eh, if I swap it, it'll be ecotec. And for that I'll leave it at my local shop while I'm on deployment. 6 months should be plenty of time for that.

One bad idea to the next. I like it. You go hard.

:bigtu:

Is there something wrong with the ecotec swap?

Probably hard to find in the search function amongst all the Brain/18psi/Concealer404 circle jerks, but you'd probably have had to intentionally avoid every mention of "Ecotec" on various Miata forums to miss them.

Which also makes the idea pretty obviously un-researched.

Alright, alright. I've looked it up multiple times before but haven't heard much in the way of bad reliability. I know the engine mounts are harsh and it's not the best for the street, but it seems like a great bump in power.

I think the ecotec is a POS junk motor personally. K series swap is the one to go with IMO.

I agree. This car needs a K swap.

Maybe this time around I'll just go with "to hell with budget". Spend the money once. Even though I already spent it...

Now you're thinking with your dipstick, Jimmy.

don't drag me into this. I don't ecotec or even kswap circle jerk.
I just tell everyone to turbo their BP :party:

Nah i mean in general. There's nothing in the search function here besides you and i participating in a good old fashioned Dutch Rudder.

This car now belongs to me. I have no need for a second MKturbo Miata, and the most prudent move would be an immediate part out and transfer of the good bits to my car. That, howvever, is no fun and would be a sad end so I am going to make a concerted effort to getting it moving.