Caved to peer pressure and went back and wired the car for sequential ignition since its already in pieces and running the wires wasn't too difficult. Starting to figure out the wiring thing. The nice thing about making a Miata the first car I've built is that its pretty easy to figure out with a little reading and guidance. Thanks to all those who have fucked shit up in the past and found better ways so I don't have to suffer. Plan is to try and start it this week...just waiting for Sixshooter to be free so I can borrow his timing light and have another set of eyes look over the vital shit before cranking her over. As far as I can tell though she is ready to try and start...excited and nervous. Guess we shall see...
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For what it's worth, I had the exact same issues fitting my TSE EFR6258 kit with a stock 5 speed trans. I had to cut about 1" off that parcel shelf looking bit behind the downpipe, a chunk out of the hood support bracket to avoid hitting the wastegate actuator, and I had to bang the shit out of my trans tunnel, and this is after rotating the downpipe about 20 times and grinding some excess material off the side of my NB transmission. It still hits under hard cornering. I've given up trying to fix it and just chocked it up to there being 10lbs of shit in a 5lbs bag, and truthfully my Racing Beat header hit in the same spot.
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:likecat: given to OP for being logical and realistic. I can't tell you how many times I moved a perfect-fit exhaust from one car to another of the exact same and had fitment issues. There's a lot variables to contend with even on a stock car.
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Originally Posted by TonyMontana
(Post 1455133)
Im not making a big stink of it since my car is like the opposite of stock and I like any reasonable individual understand that when you modify the shit out of things what once was a bolt on may no longer be that way. There is no way for Andrew to account for all the changes I've made to the car and I would never hold him to that. If I had a stock transmission would it fit?...maybe...we will never know so I'm not going to say yes or no on that. As it sits with a TSE kit and BMW transmission on my car the DP is not a bolt on. Thats no ones fault or truthfully anything to make a big fucking stink about with him directly. I wish it was a bolt on--would save me some time and money but whatever. That being said it is reasonable to think if the consensus is that his kit is the best (TBD in my situation) and people are likely to be shooting for high HP with his kit that the BMW transmission option may become a more regular occurrence on cars with his kit. I would never expect this because frankly it isn't anyones responsibility but my own to make this shit fit but it would have been nice to get a little vendor support/offer of assistance on this one as Im sure this will come up again on other cars as people build them. Either way the car will get a DP that fits be it modifying this one or just having the local shop fabricate a new one.
Don't mean to sidetrack your build thread but I'd like to be able to collaborate with you and Andrew a bit. The DP doesn't hit the trans body or adapter plate, but there is interference with the rear trans mount, correct? Does the pipe actually hit the mount, or is the mount just in the way of logical exhaust routing? If we can have a formula for making this combo work well together, that would be a win for everyone. |
Originally Posted by KMiata
(Post 1455427)
That's a great perspective, +1 for you. Yes, I'm sure both of these products will be paired together many times in the future.
Don't mean to sidetrack your build thread but I'd like to be able to collaborate with you and Andrew a bit. The DP doesn't hit the trans body or adapter plate, but there is interference with the rear trans mount, correct? Does the pipe actually hit the mount, or is the mount just in the way of logical exhaust routing? If we can have a formula for making this combo work well together, that would be a win for everyone. |
Originally Posted by KMiata
(Post 1455427)
That's a great perspective, +1 for you. Yes, I'm sure both of these products will be paired together many times in the future.
Don't mean to sidetrack your build thread but I'd like to be able to collaborate with you and Andrew a bit. The DP doesn't hit the trans body or adapter plate, but there is interference with the rear trans mount, correct? Does the pipe actually hit the mount, or is the mount just in the way of logical exhaust routing? If we can have a formula for making this combo work well together, that would be a win for everyone. |
Originally Posted by TonyMontana
(Post 1455430)
On my car no matter what I would have had to cut a piece out of the shelf for the DP to make the turn off the turbo...Took 2 minutes with a grinder no big deal. The area in question is say mid BMW transmission. According to the install plans for the TSE DP you have to be able to rotate the pipe as close to the stock trans as possible so it doesn't contact the underside of the shelf or drivers side trans tunnel. The problem is where a stock transmission gets narrower after the housing the BMW transmission doesn't get as narrow so you can't rotate the pipe enough to not have a contact problem. Its really close but just not quite there. As far as the transmission mounts they are just flat in the way on mine. Either the DP would have to come lower under the car or I have to modify in a sorta U piece to go under the mount and back up to mate with a stock cat back. Is that clear?
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Originally Posted by KMiata
(Post 1455431)
Yup, that makes sense. Not much we can do about the body of the trans being wider. Does it seem like the DP could just be cut in the middle, rotate the lower section, and welded back up? If so, that's easy, and it would also be easy to fixture so they could be accurately modded for customers in the future.
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This build is incredible. I've just binge read the 20 pages so far. Very much looking forward to the coming updates.
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excited for you and the first start.
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So this happened
Fired almost immediately...only minor leaks to contend with...base timing set. Pretty excited. |
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Fixed I think
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Congrats on the first start!
Is that metallic noise the downpipe clunking lol. |
Originally Posted by ridethecliche
(Post 1456052)
Congrats on the first start!
Is that metallic noise the downpipe clunking lol. |
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The fitment of the downpipe isn’t quite as bad as I expected, but I see where there could be improvements to make it fit better. Both straight sections need to be a tad longer. That should give a little more space from the body and transmission. I fully expected the shelf needing a trim.
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The build just looks fantastic. How are you tensioning the air conditioning belt - just shimming the ac bracket with washers? I'm wanting to do the same thing, so any tips would be much appreciated
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Originally Posted by ninerwfo
(Post 1456078)
The build just looks fantastic. How are you tensioning the air conditioning belt - just shimming the ac bracket with washers? I'm wanting to do the same thing, so any tips would be much appreciated��
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Originally Posted by ninerwfo
(Post 1456078)
The build just looks fantastic. How are you tensioning the air conditioning belt - just shimming the ac bracket with washers? I'm wanting to do the same thing, so any tips would be much appreciated��
Ryan G took a picture of the belt number I used |
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