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thumpetto007 04-28-2016 04:37 PM

^interesting...

So I've talked to Gary at Track Dog Racing for a really long time about my setup. He seems convinced that my rods and pistons are in danger even at 220whp... And with the C30-94, I should limit my rpm significantly. Like 6000rpm should be my redline kind of limiting.

This doesn't really jive with what a lot of people on this site have been saying, that 250wtq is the max "safe" working limit for the rods/pistons.

Could his much lower limits be due to using inferior fuel cards, or poor engine management?

18psi 04-28-2016 04:39 PM


Originally Posted by thumpetto007 (Post 1327466)
^interesting...

So I've talked to Gary at Track Dog Racing for a really long time about my setup. He seems convinced that my rods and pistons are in danger even at 220whp... And with the C30-94, I should limit my rpm significantly. Like 6000rpm should be my redline kind of limiting.

This doesn't really jive with what a lot of people on this site have been saying, that 250wtq is the max "safe" working limit for the rods/pistons.

Could his much lower limits be due to using inferior fuel cards, or poor engine management?

:facepalm:

Ask Gary about the magnificent job they did tuning Stoli's car.

I have not seen such incompetence even from the "other" TDR (tuning done rong).

aidandj 04-28-2016 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by thumpetto007 (Post 1327466)
^interesting...

So I've talked to Gary at Track Dog Racing for a really long time about my setup. He seems convinced that my rods and pistons are in danger even at 220whp... And with the C30-94, I should limit my rpm significantly. Like 6000rpm should be my redline kind of limiting.

Power doesn't break stuff. Torque does.


Originally Posted by thumpetto007 (Post 1327466)
This doesn't really jive with what a lot of people on this site have been saying, that 250wtq is the max "safe" working limit for the rods/pistons.

Could his much lower limits be due to using inferior fuel cards, or poor engine management?

Yes. And 250wtq will bend rods. You can do it around 230wtq if you aren't lucky.

But you have a super charger. Which won't make torque down low. Which is what bends rods.

18psi 04-28-2016 04:46 PM

You - will I pop my engine?
MT - likely not.
You - but some dude somewhere said I will
MT - likely not.
You - but I heard in a PBS documentary that I could
MT - likely not.
You - will smaller pulley be beneficial?
MT - likely not.
You - I'll go ahead and get one for no reason anyway, is that a good plan?
MT - likely not.
You - okay I just bought a buttload of parts and won't need 75% of them. was that smart?
MT - likely not.

ILU <3 :)
ps: updated thread title.

thumpetto007 04-28-2016 05:27 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1327474)
You - will I pop my engine?
MT - likely not.
You - but some dude somewhere said I will
MT - likely not.
You - but I heard in a PBS documentary that I could
MT - likely not.
You - will smaller pulley be beneficial?
MT - likely not.
You - I'll go ahead and get one for no reason anyway, is that a good plan?
MT - likely not.
You - okay I just bought a buttload of parts and won't need 75% of them. was that smart?
MT - likely not.

ILU <3 :)
ps: updated thread title.

Hahaha!
just delete all the posts, and keep that one.

thanks for the title change lol

thumpetto007 04-28-2016 07:28 PM

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Daddy got a package today...

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1461886132

Hard Dog Hard Core M2 Roll Bah (hopefully) fits the rear soft top glass and under a hard top! Its not as glamorous, but I left the wrapping on for paint protection. Pictured is the high density foam "padding" just draped over the bar. This feels like hard plastic, and has barely any give...

I also got a leather cover for the top bar, but it is too small. My guess is they sent the leather cover that works for the roll bar that is 1 1/4 tubing, and the hard core bars are 1 3/4.

18psi 04-28-2016 07:33 PM

sex swing?

thumpetto007 04-28-2016 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1327573)
sex swing?

You know it! I'm a kinky slut.

thumpetto007 04-29-2016 10:19 PM

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(with Deezum 18psi and Aidens help...)

Just a small update, I finally got around to cutting a spring to size to fit in the catch cans I'm making... Taken from Deezums Catch Can thread... I'm using the Husky compressor air/water separator from Home Depot.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1461982793
I bought an assorted spring package also at Home Depot, and looked through it until I found a suitable spring. This is a picture of the order after you disassemble the catch can (reservoir not shown)



https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1461982793

This is the uncut spring, and the cut length spring in the assembly order (clear reservoir also not shown)

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1461982793

This is how I reassembled everything, after a few different methods, I settled on squeezing the allen wrench between my naked Italian thighs, and balancing the stuff on it...

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1461982793

Then you lower the reservoir down (after inserting the black valve thing into it) onto the rest of the assembly and tighten down. This method was much easier than fiddling around and getting nowhere...

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1461982793

hope this helps someone...

thumpetto007 05-01-2016 01:15 PM

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Just an engine bay shot, I installed a TDR heat shield, kind of cockeyed, I couldn't pull it down any farther. Functional tho.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1462122936

Chilicharger665 05-02-2016 03:18 AM

Keep up the good work!

yossi126 05-02-2016 07:21 AM

Functional as you monitored temps and it really goes down?

thumpetto007 05-03-2016 11:36 AM

When I start logging again I'll have a better idea of actual numbers.

I know its just anecdotal, but, for example, the intake box would get quite hot, and the valve cover would burn instantly to the touch. Now I can hold my hand on the intake box without discomfort, and I can accidentally touch the valve cover, even for a two seconds, and not get burned.

Oh, also, the oil cap would get super freaking hot. I had to wear thick gloves just to add oil. Now I can remove the oil cap bare handed. Its honestly remarkable how crappy of a job the oem unit does.

Also, it took 50 minutes of driving for frost to melt off my hood yesterday morning, if that helps.

I would think one of the only downsides to the exhaust blanket over the oem heat shielding is the windshield wiper fluid would not be as helpful in removing ice layers because it wouldn't get hot like it did before

Stealth97 05-03-2016 01:52 PM

I don't think you were supposed to shove that metal rod there, or at least not share pics of it on the interwebz

thumpetto007 05-03-2016 04:33 PM

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Hehe, I can't help but shove my rod places...

Sending my transmission to RO Motersports, Installing OS Giken, changing ring and pinion to 3.63 (different speed sensor too) sending my XIDAs to Inertia Labs for a warranty(hopefully) rebuild, changing springrates to 800/500, adding the billet coaxial top mounts!!!! finally.

Here's a speed/rpm photo for comparison in a month...

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1462307614

thumpetto007 05-03-2016 08:00 PM

well, i have now seen what my fat cells look like...

goin pretty damn fast on my roadbike, on a route I've ridden every day for the past few months, wasn't paying attention until it was too late... someone placed a sign in a crosswalk, so i turned a bit to avoid it, but went to a section of road that has a big chunk missing... i didn't bunny hop high enough, and my rear wheel slammed into the edge of the road... sent me flying...

:'(

Got some good road rash, scraped through to the fat cells through my clothing.

I don't even want to look at my bike. pretty messed up.

aidandj 05-03-2016 08:02 PM

Pics or it didn't happen.

thumpetto007 05-03-2016 08:18 PM

haha ok one sec



WARNING BLOODY STUFF... DON'T SCROLL DOWN IF YOU ARE QUEASY!!!

thumpetto007 05-03-2016 08:27 PM

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I wasn't sure what the white centers were, in the deeper scrapes, and webMD was saying it is the layer of fat cells? Its definitely not bone, because I was poking it a bit.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1462321663

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1462321663

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1462321663

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1462321663

18psi 05-03-2016 08:32 PM

edited to links cause the only person weird enough tto want to see that is aiden


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