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Derek Gingerich 04-01-2017 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by nitrodann (Post 1402663)
Ever considered that its done that way OEM because its cheaper?

Dann

Well... He has a good point... The turbo is already hanging from the manifold so why make a crane.... Supporting it from the bottom as he suggested makes sense....

nbfather 04-01-2017 11:45 AM

I see you are running X98.
How corrosive is it?
I am wondering if it can be left in the fuel system for reasonable lengths of time like E85 or not?
Obviously filtration is key as is a good maintenance program, but there seems to be very little information around on the fuel?

shlammed 04-04-2017 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by nitrodann (Post 1402663)
Ever considered that its done that way OEM because its cheaper?

Dann

I did think that once, then I analyzed an Alpha12 turbo kit (in hand) and they have nicely machined brackets to do the same thing in the same location. I wouldn't hesitate with turbine housing mounted solid bracing.

shlammed 04-04-2017 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by Derek Gingerich (Post 1402709)
Well... He has a good point... The turbo is already hanging from the manifold so why make a crane.... Supporting it from the bottom as he suggested makes sense....

I would also add that it should be done on the turbine housing or housing bolts specifically. not an oil drain bolt or the compressor housing. any flex in the turbo from a chra or compressor mounted bracket could cause turbo failure from wheel hitting the housing. if you put all of the stresses in the exhaust housing and avoid the center section you will be golden.

18psi 04-04-2017 12:24 PM

The MSM is a perfect example of this on a cheap car:
turbine housing has a mounting point cast in it
there is a thick steel bracket bolting to it and the block.
cheap and effective. no need to over think it

nitrodann 04-06-2017 03:21 AM


Originally Posted by shlammed (Post 1403402)
I did think that once, then I analyzed an Alpha12 turbo kit (in hand) and they have nicely machined brackets to do the same thing in the same location. I wouldn't hesitate with turbine housing mounted solid bracing.

Do you reckon THEY did it because they have the R&D capability to also do it cheap, like oem?

TurboTim 04-06-2017 08:11 AM

My 2 cents:

The longer the tubes, the more they will grow with temps, the worse a rigid brace will be. There's also harmonics at play. AMS V6 stiff cast stainless relatively short tube manifold ≠ bp weld elbow'ed long runner manifold.

Derek Gingerich 04-09-2017 12:01 AM

Photo dump
 
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...ceaf5ff665.jpgUpper and lower rad hoses
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...d242840e72.jpgIce box and pump
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...b4d3144a2d.jpgReroute spacer
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...0740da3de7.jpgAdapter/seal plate
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...dcb8f2c5ab.jpgUpper rad bung
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...c88ec71963.jpgMoved forward about an inch up top, lower moved to condensor mounts
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...1d42f0ad60.jpgReroute mounted
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...c70823dc6b.jpgUpper rad hose running under intake

Derek Gingerich 04-20-2017 12:16 AM

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...70f3c1901f.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...0910042c22.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...9cea3838d5.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...aad173ed8d.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...6c28e6806b.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...e7b0123fdc.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...d19468185c.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...1f713f5d65.jpg

concealer404 11-13-2017 07:16 PM

RIP.

This was my first Miata. Actually a little sad.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-z...2017-11-13.png

18psi 11-13-2017 08:56 PM


Originally Posted by Derek Gingerich (Post 1399749)
ID1700x injectors and a 400+lph pump, 8an feed with a 6 an return, plenty of fuel

ARP head studs and a cometic HG are on the car, this much boost on this motor isn't that uncommon.... Well it is in the small minded community of the Mazda Miata

GLAD OP FOLLOWED THROUGH WITH HIS AMBITIOUS PLANS, AND SHOWED US small minded LEMMINGS HOW THINGS ARE DONE!!


OHHHHH WAIT!!!!!!!!!

oreo 11-13-2017 09:26 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1451617)
RIP.

This was my first Miata. Actually a little sad.

LOL, I didn't understand this post until now.

concealer404 11-13-2017 09:29 PM

Yeah I bought this car in June of 2011. Got married in it in June of 2013 in the middle of an epic 3 week road trip around the US.

Sold it to @vteckiller2000 after that, he took great care of it. He sold it to this dude... and then this happened.

ridethecliche 11-13-2017 09:33 PM

Yeah, watching this guy post about this car on various miata fb groups was really amusing especially because he went dead silent about his build at some point and then started posting his car fs everywhere. Didn't see him post a single time slip either, but the car supposedly ran when he was trying to sell it.

Then he parted everything because no one was willing to pay his ridiculous asking price for an unfinished project.

concealer404 11-13-2017 09:36 PM

I drove it at MATG 2016. It was a dumpster fire. Flat out dangerous and had no business being out there.

18psi 11-13-2017 09:52 PM

they call us haters. they tell us we're closed minded. elitists. and then 99% of them end up EXACTLY how we predicted and the world moves on.

there's a lesson to learn here. but I'm too old to remember

ridethecliche 11-14-2017 03:46 PM

He's still talking himself up on Facebook groups....

At least his thread title was on point...

18psi 11-14-2017 04:12 PM

Ooh that reminds me

psyber_0ptix 11-14-2017 04:45 PM

Wait is this the guy that was boasting somewhere in Miata Club/FB about buying a miata, dumping 13k into it only to part it out?

ridethecliche 11-14-2017 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by psyber_0ptix (Post 1451765)
Wait is this the guy that was boasting somewhere in Miata Club/FB about buying a miata, dumping 13k into it only to part it out?

His username here is his IRL name, and yes... that's the guy.


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